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Runnin' Down a Dream: Mike Campbell

Tom Guerra
Premier Guitar April 2008

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Mike Campbell
Mike Campbell has been laying down tasteful, unobtrusive licks for over 30 years, and while that might be enough for lesser constitutions, he’s showing no signs of slowing down. We sit down with Mike to talk about the music, the gear and the state of rock n’ roll.

For well over 30 years, Mike Campbell’s tasteful guitar playing has been a key ingredient to the success of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Although initially inspired by first generation rock n’ rollers Scotty Moore and Luther Perkins, his primary influences can be traced to the 1960s, particularly guitarists from the British Invasion, including George Harrison, Keith Richards and Brian Jones. Mike’s straightforward melodies have served as the cornerstones of many rock classics, including “Breakdown,” “American Girl,” “Refugee” and “Runnin’ Down a Dream,” with his understated playing giving these songs an eternal freshness. Relying on melody, tone and dynamics versus flash, even Campbell’s earliest work with the Heartbreakers sounded mature beyond his years.


From the beginning, he has been heavily involved in constructing the arrangements for the Heartbreakers’ tunes. As a coauthor, Mike has been responsible for some of the band’s biggest hits, as well as two of Don Henley’s biggest songs, “The Boys of Summer” and “Heart of the Matter.” Time and time again, he has demonstrated that great songs are all about melody, construction and amazing guitar sounds. Like George Harrison before him, Mike reminds us that no matter what guitar he is playing – be it 12-string, slide, acoustic or electric – the most important thing is to always respect the song.

To celebrate the 30 plus years of the Heartbreakers, director Peter Bogdanovich put together a high-quality DVD boxed set called Runnin’ Down a Dream, which has the potential to go down as one of the best rock n’ roll documentaries ever created. In the film, Mike displays a sense of candor and comes across as both caring and wise – qualities which also emerged in our interview. Shortly after our chat, it was announced that Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers would be joining a small but elite class of musicians who have been chosen to perform at the Super Bowl halftime show.


Mike Campbell Hi Mike, and thank you for taking the time to speak with us today. First off, congratulations on the new DVD, Runnin’ Down a Dream; Peter Bogdanovich did a fantastic job on it and the amount of old footage is amazing. It’s a great close-up of the band’s 30-year career, but I still get the feeling that there’s plenty ahead for the Heartbreakers. Are you guys planning on touring in 2008?

Yes we are – we’re planning on putting a tour together for next summer.


I understand you have a new side project called The Dirty Knobs. Can you tell us about that? Are you guys doing mostly original stuff?

We do mostly originals, but do the odd cover now and then, like The Beatles’ “She Said, She Said,” or something by the Kinks or Chuck Berry – older stuff – and then arrange it to fit our group. The Dirty Knobs is myself and another guitarist named Jason Sinay, Matt Laug on drums and Lance Morrison on bass. It’s all about fun, it’s a very spiritual band, and we’re not concerned about trying to get a record deal.


Have The Dirty Knobs been in the studio, and if so, can we expect a release anytime soon?

We’ve recorded a lot and it’s great stuff, but I don’t know that we want to take on the industry right now because we’ve got such a good thing going. I almost don’t want to bring that energy to it, because it is such a great way to just go out and play.


How did you develop your style of playing? Did you take lessons or learn mostly from records?

Back then we didn’t have cassette players or anything, but I would sometimes slow the records down and listen real close and try to figure out how the guitar player was doing certain things. I had a couple of guitar books too. There was one I had, I wish I still had it – it was How to Play the Guitar with Carl Wilson [of the Beach Boys], and it had pictures of his hands. I met him several years later and said, “Hey, I had your book” and he was sort of blown away, and said, “Oh, my Dad put that together!” So I got a couple of ideas on how to finger certain chords from that, but most of it I just picked up by ear, off the records.


So no formal lessons?

No, I never did, but when I was real young – I guess I was in sixth grade – my parents got me some accordion lessons in school, so I kinda learned a little bit of basic theory from that. I can read, really painfully slow, but not enough to actually use it.


Were you just playing with an acoustic at that point?

My mom got me my first guitar, a Harmony acoustic for $30 that was unplayable. The strings were so high and I would struggle like crazy and my fingers would bleed trying to play the damn thing. Then I went to a friend’s house one day and he had a Gibson SG, and I could not believe how easy it was to push the strings down. So I started on that Harmony acoustic and later on my Dad got me my first electric guitar, a Goya. I wish I still had those, but I gave them away over the years.


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Rebecca - Web Ed
on 02/18/2010
liberty - it's from our April 2008 issue.
liberty
on 02/18/2010
what year is this interview from?
SPaCe KRiCKeTs
on 12/23/2009
The first time I heard the song Breakdown (back in 78) I was immediatley hooked, what a great sound ... what band is this? It took awhile for me to figure out why I was so influenced by TP, I mean he is not the greatest singer, the tunes are simple at best the HBs flaunted no image that I recall. Well it took sometime to figure it out for me and I get it now ... it was the straight up no-frills rock, no pretenciousness. It was (and is still) the whole package but as a singer songwriter myself I don't find myself writing Tom Petty sounding songs, what I find myself doing is constanly borrowing Mike's riffs ... he is my favorite guitarist for many reasons but the main reason is that he plays for the song. Cheers Mike! Merry Christmas to you and yours.
FloridaMusic
on 09/29/2009
Just found this article, a little late. But I'm glad I did.

Mike, you're one of the greats. You must know that another swell of musical talent is rising again in Gainesville at this time. Check it out. I bet Stan and Jeff (Simms) would be thrilled to see you join with them to help this new crop of Gainesville green (musicians that is...) go stellar. Keep on rockin'
Official Live 'Leg
on 08/22/2008
Mike did a great job the first time I saw him play with TP at the Paramount in Seattle for a buck. Honest. The concert series was called "Catch a Rising Star". It was their first tour and they even told the audience that the party after the show was at the Edgewater! Then, probably 30 years later, I saw Mike play with TP at The Gorge, August 2008. Except for the dreds and the beard it was like time had stood still. And it was just as great as ever. Humble, polite, reverent and brilliant. Now I just wish I had given him my '54 Strat! He could have done a lot more with it than I ever did!
BREAKDOWN REFUGEE
on 08/21/2008
MIKE USES A LOT OF BOXES DAVIE ALLAN USES. Davie Allan & The Arrows ....Moving Right Along is CD of the year and you don't even know about it! Why? Because he is underground baby!Why is he underground? It's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do it! He is moppin' the stage with his Jazzmaster while others get the rub. Fender is honoring a Jazzmaster guitar. Davie is playing his honorable!LISTEN TO THE GUITAR MAN!
Doc H.
on 08/14/2008
We saw the band in Minneapolis, excellent concert! I miss Stan but was blown away by Steve's performance on the drums. We were thrilled with his precision and power, but Stan had always been more "into" the live performance. Fortunately, the band had great energy and delivered a show we will never forget.
aka beach guy
on 07/30/2008
Saw Mike both in Cincinnati and Fort Lauderdale on the 2008 tour and the highest compliment I can pay to him, Tom and the band is that each concert seemed like the best concert I had ever been to. Mike's quitar work is amazing, and he always makes a point of connecting with the crowd. Those around me in Fort Lauderdale kept repeating themselves on every song what a great quitar player Mike is! Thanks for the interview, Mike and I hope to see you and the band one last time in Woodlands, TX!
Clint
on 07/30/2008
Just watched Runnin' Down a Dream-changed my whole perspective on Tom and his journey. Mike is Mr Taste! Please come back to Australia and to Perth!
Steve
on 07/13/2008
Just saw TPaTHBs live in Charlotte, NC. Absolutely unbelieveable! First saw them in 1978 and they have not slowed down one bit. One major reason is Mike campbell - absolutely the best. Saw the concert with my daughter and her fiance and I only hope the band continues so we introduce another generation to their music.



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