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Building A Stingray Clone on the Cheap

Dan Berkowitz

Learn how to make a Stingray clone for under $200


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Every once in awhile, I come up with an inexpensive and rewarding bass project. Usually these projects come about when I stumble upon a bass at a great price, or when I have an idea I’d like to try out but don’t want to spend big bucks buying a new axe off the rack.

This time, I ended up building a nice sounding, great playing Stingray clone for about $200. What fun!

A False Start…But A Great Pickup
A couple of months ago, I wanted to try a semi-hollow bass project and got an interesting Samick Royale that used one Music Man-style pickup. I tried a few different mods with it but couldn’t quite get the sound I was after. It played great, though, so I gave it one last shot with a different pickup. Looking around on talkbass.com, I found a Bartolini Stingray model that somebody had pulled from a Lakland.

 

In the bass world, Bart pickups are known for their warm, hi-fi character and moderate output, and that’s not what most players are after in a Stingray. But back in the late-seventies, I put a set of Barts in my ’74 Jazz. You’re thinking…replacement pickups in a vintage instrument? (Hey, who knew about rewinding pickups in the seventies?) That was the era of the replacement pickup and a small local shop talked me into trying the Barts, which weren’t considered vintage at that time.

So, I bought the Bart Stingray pickup ($50 shipped) and put it into the Samick bass, but that still wasn’t what I was looking for. Plus, I wasn’t able to shield the pickup in that semi-hollow axe and it had a bit more hum that I like. I’m pretty particular about keeping my basses quiet and hum-free. I ended up selling the bass and putting the original pickup back in.

There I was…a nice Stingray pickup in hand, but no axe to put it in!

Pondering Leo
Let me take another diversion here. I’ve always been a fan of Leo Fender-designed basses. The ’74 Jazz was my first real bass, the one that replaced my first Sears axe. The Sears bass was an “Oops!” moment, because when I bought it around 1970, my bass teacher told me shortly afterward that he’d found me a Fender bass for $100. Like a total idiot, I didn’t buy it, hanging onto the Sears instead. And for the last few decades, I’ve wondered what kind of vintage axe I missed out on.

Another reason I’m fond of Leo Basses is because I grew up in Fullerton, California, an easy bike ride from the Fender factory. I’ll always remember the time I rode over to the Fender factory in my early-teens and peered through the chain-linked fence at a dumpster full of rejected necks and bodies. (Yes, in the sixties!)

Besides playing Leo’s Jazz and Precision basses, I’ve played an early G&L L-1000 (with the famous OMG mode) and now, a G&L L-2500, but never a Stingray. What defines a Stingray the most is its big humbucking pickup located in a sweet spot a little closer to the bridge than a typical single pickup instrument, which gives it a little extra zing. The L-2500, in contrast, has one pickup a bit closer to the bridge and one closer to the neck. The Stingray pickup lands somewhere in between those two.

All right, let’s get back on track…

Finding A Body Donor
There I was with a nice Bartolini Stingray pickup just waiting for a bass. Yes, I know that’s backwards. First you’re supposed to buy the bass, then replace the pickup. To keep the project cheap, I posted a want ad on talkbass.com for an OLP (Officially Licensed Product) Stingray.

There are plenty of these OLP clones out there, they’re decent instruments for the price, and they’re cheap. I had a couple of offers and picked one up for $150. Now I was at the total cost of $200 for the key parts I needed. I already had some copper shielding tape left over from another project. And, of course, I had a set of needle files from the hardware store and all the soldering tools.

I decided to keep the cost and effort down by going without a preamp which Stingrays usually come with. I didn’t want to route the body to fit in a preamp and battery. But that left me with three pots and the need for just two. OLP wires their pickups in parallel, with a separate pot for each coil. That makes it sort of like a Jazz bass with the coils really close together.

Bartolini recommends wiring their Stingray pickup in series instead, which doesn’t work as well for separating the coils. As the Bartolini tech document explained, parallel wiring with this pickup produces about half the output of series and the tone isn’t as full.

A Switch Switchero
My solution – I put a series/parallel switch in place of the extra volume knob for a bit more versatility. Music Man Sterling basses and G&L basses use this kind of switch, and several websites show how to wire a pickup that way. It can be done with an inexpensive double pole-double throw switch. At this point, I’d broken the $200 barrier by about five bucks.

My first step was to wire up the bass to see if I could get a sound I liked. And as I expected, the Bartolini pickup sounded great. Full, tight bottom, clear top, good output, nice detailed sound (at least in series mode). The parallel mode had notably less output and punch, but hey, having a switch on your axe is always fun! So I ended up leaving the bass wired with the switch, even though I’m not likely to play it that way very much.


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Steve Dallman
on 12/31/2011
I also modded a friend's OLP. I built a Stingray 2 band EQ/preamp and wired the pickup in parallel. What a HUGE improvement in this bass. Punch, volume, and the range of the treble control is intense. I love the original MM preamp and build them quite often.
Steve Dallman
on 12/31/2011
I put together a Stingray "clone" last year, and it's become my favorite bass. I bought a cheap, maple with black block markers, Eden neck. With fret leveling and a little work, it's a fine neck. The body is a Silvertone P bass body I bought for $6. Very light...probably basswood. I used OLP control plates and bridge. The pickup is a 4 conductor cheapie I got for $14. I put in a 3 band EQ with sweepable mids...Artec I believe, but it too was cheap. So for just over $100, I ended up with a lightweight, 5 string MM knockoff that sounds and plays great. It's 6lbs lighter than my Line 6 Variax 5 string, and sounds better than my other 5 strings (Steinberger, Fender, Peavey, etc) More bass, plenty of treble and it punches through the band's mix like crazy. I put in a series/parallel switch, but it sounds best in parallel.
Guido
on 12/19/2010
I also think of turning super cheap basses into killers. My latest was an OLP stingray. I left the original pickup and had the Basslines Blackouts tone circuit put in with the separate knobs. I had a push pull pot put in. Originally I had my repair guy wired it, down, parallel, up single coil. After a couple of months using it I felt that parallel wasn't cutting it so I had him change it to, down, series, up parallel. Wow! what a difference. I don't think I'll ever use parallel on that one again. That bass kills now.
Butch Ammons
on 12/19/2008
IMO there is no big advantage to replacing the pickup, the OLP pickups are OK. The S/P switch is a great addition. I put a used Seymour Duncan Basslines STC-2P in my OLP5. It came alive! Be warned that the Chinese elm used in the natural finish models is the hardest wood that I've put a router to. More info: http://noahvale.freeshell.org/olp.htm
Steve D
on 12/04/2008
The article should have been titled,
"replacing a pickup in an OLP bass." A pickup and a setup...nothing resembling a "build."
Tim Landers
on 11/28/2008
Dan - this kind of project is right up my alley. I have done similar mods to pretty good knock-offs. one of my faves right now is a jay turser copy of a '54 p-bass. nice neck on it and a light sen ash body. it just needed some fret dressing, nut slot adjusting and a basslines replacement pu w/ new pots. after a bit of neck settling (caused by labella flats) I got myself a pretty amazing sounding $200 growler. love the articles!
Dan Berkowitz
on 11/28/2008
Somehow the link didn't paste right...need to remove the space between OLP and Bass#
Dan Berkowitz
on 11/28/2008
Here's a link to some additional photos that didn't make it into the article: http://picasaweb.google.com/profdanb/OLP Bass# If you click on a photo, you'll see a caption below it.
Willie
on 11/28/2008
Pictures, Dan, pictures! I've come to call this process "assembling a monster". Like the flamed maple Cherry Burst Tele body or the Vai body with the monkey grip that I made into basses. Great info, though...thanks!
Matt
on 11/28/2008
Nice article in regard to the series vs. parallel wiring, the sheilding, and the nut work. To classify this project as "building a bass" might be pushing things a bit. I think that we found out in the Esquire article a couple of months back what it costs to do that as cheaply as possible.



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