March 2008 \ Tech Tips \ Mod Garage \ Auditioning Tone Capacitors

Auditioning Tone Capacitors

Dirk Wacker

Breaking the myths of tone capacitors and helping you find the best one for your tone.


Premier Guitar March 2008

As you know, we love to discuss the smallest details about our guitars, and the tone caps inside of them are no exception. Finding the right tone cap can be a very time-intensive and expensive project and, as always, the internet is full of urban legends – including magical, para-psychological “facts” about them. Believe me, there is nothing mystical inside of capacitors. Without drifting into any voodoo fields, it’s time to uncover some of the mystery that surrounds these little rascals. Over the next two months I will show you how find your tone cap – without wasting a lot of time and money!

In a nutshell, a capacitor is an electrical/electronic device that can store energy in the electric field between a pair of conductors (called “plates”). The process of storing energy in the capacitor is known as charging, and involves electrical charges of equal magnitude but opposite polarity building up on each side.

Capacitors are often used in electrical and electronic circuits as energy-storage devices. They can also be used to differentiate between high-frequency and low-frequency signals. This property makes them useful in electronic filters, and that´s exactly what we use them for inside our guitars. Basically, our passive tone control can be used to dampen the high frequencies. When you close the tone pot, it rolls off the treble response, giving a more mellow tone. Adjusting this control affects the sound very noticeably, but it still is quite recognizable as the same guitar.

A basic rule for tone caps is that the bigger the cap, the darker the tone. Depending on the cap’s value (capacitance), the effect can reach from “slightly warmer” to a “woman tone” all the way to “completely dark and clinically dead.” Remember, the tone cap is always part of the guitar circuit and it even influences the tone when the tone pot is fully opened.

I often receive e-mails and calls from guitarists who don’t use the tone control at all, mostly complaining about tones that are darke and lifeless, hotspots when closing the tone pot, and a basically useless taper of the tone control. I’m sure you’ve experienced the last problem; when closing your tone control, all changes occur between 10 and 8, and from 8 all the way to 0 there is no audible change of your tone. Don’t worry, this can be solved. I hope that I can encourage you to give your tone control a second chance. It is really unbelievable how many tone colors can be easily dialed in with a proper tone control.

There are two basic parameters that we will talk about: the value (capacitance) and voltage rating of the cap, plus the type of cap itself. Both parameters will influence the tone a lot; this month, we will start with the value and voltage rating of the cap. Capacitance is a measure of the amount of electric charge stored (or separated) for a given electric potential. The voltage rating describes the maximum working voltage of a cap (potential, measured in volts).

Voltage Rating
One of my all-time favorite urban legends has to do with voltage ratings. You can read about voltage ratings of 400 volts – and higher! – for tone caps, and how this influences the tone. Do you ever talk about 400 volts coming out of your guitar? Of course not. Then how exactly does it influence tone?

Orange Drop Capacitors
As a basic rule you can say that every cap with a voltage rating of 0.5 volts or higher will work inside a passive electric guitar, with higher voltage ratings resulting in larger caps. The reason for the high-voltage tone caps that you find in guitars is easy to explain. A lot of popular caps, like the Sprague “Orange Drops,” are for tube amps with inside voltage of 600V or higher. Nevertheless, the caps sound great inside a guitar, but an Orange Drop cap with a 10V rating would also sound great. A cap with a higher voltage rating does not sound different from the same cap with a lower voltage rating.

I’ve spent a lot of time with A/B comparisons, blind tests and measurements and I never could ear any difference. I’m not Eric Johnson, and I use my eyes instead of my ears to verify if the grass in my garden is growing, but you can try these tests yourself. Orange Drop caps are great for this experiment because they are available in voltage ratings from 100 to 680 volts.

Value (Capacitance)
Now that those rumors are debunked, let’s focus on the more important parameter – the value of the cap. Remember our basic rule to help understand this parameter: the higher the capacitance, the darker the tone.

In the “golden days” of electrical guitars, Fender and Gibson used tone caps with a very high capacitance (0.1uf/0.05uF and 0.047uF/0.022uF, depending upon the time period). The 0.022uF value is still the standard today. If you need very dark and bassy tones, this value may work for you. For most of us, however, this value is much too large and the effect is more or less useless, resulting in the aforementioned problem of the effect only taking place between 10 and 8. The solution to the problem is simply a tone cap with a much smaller value. This little change will enhance the usability of your tone control dramatically, giving you a good evenness among the complete taper of the tone control without any hotspots, and every movement of the pot will result in a change of tone.

The value of your tone cap is always a matter of individual choice and needs, because everyone has a different ideal tone and everyone uses the tone control differently. Personally I use very small tone caps of 3300pF up to 6800pF, depending on the guitar and how bright it sounds. With these mall values I´m able to dial in a lot of tonal shades and colors all over the tone pot, and with every small movement the tone gets a little bit warmer and sweeter - not dull and dark.

Finding the Perfect Value
To find the perfect value for you, I suggest getting a piece of cardboard, two 10” pieces of wire, two solderable alligator clips and some cheap standard ceramic caps. The cheapest caps from a local electronic store are good enough for this, and the voltage rating is completely unimportant. Get values from 1200pF to .1uF, plus every value in between you would like to try. One piece of each value is enough. Glue the caps side by side on a piece of cardboard, with the legs reaching over the edges. Don’t forget to note the value of each cap on the cardboard! Then, solder the alligator clips to the wires (one clip per wire, soldered to one end of the wire).

Now open your guitar and desolder and remove the existing tone cap. Solder the end of the wires opposite to the alligator clips to the points where the original tone cap was connected and close your guitar leaving the wires hanging out. Now you can change the different caps within seconds by simply connecting with the alligator clips. Play your guitar and use the tone control to see which value works best.

Hopefully you will be able to determine through this method what your favorite cap value is. My tip is to try 2200pF, 3300pF, 4700pF and 6800pF and listen to how they interact with the tone and taper of the pot. Chances are good that you will like them!

This is a very important step in converting your tone control to a useable and helpful tool in the future. Next month we will talk about the different cap types, and how to figure out which one is for you.

See you next month!




Dirk Wacker has been addicted to all kinds of guitars since the age of five and is fascinated by anything that has something to do with old Fender guitars and amps. He hates short scales and Telecaster neck pickups, but loves twang. In his spare time he plays country, rockabilly, surf and Nashville styles in several bands, works as a studio musician and writes for several guitar mags. He is also a hardcore DIY guy for guitars, amps and stompboxes and also runs an extensive webpage singlecoil.com about these things.

     

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Jacques Mario
20 hr 56 min ago
Hi, im mostly in lead guitar for Blues Music, i wud like yr valuable advice before ordering the Sprague orange drop caps, thinking of sprague orange cap-od22 .22mfd for my LP guitar n sprague orange cap-od33 .33mfd n cap-od47 .47mfd for my fender strat. Awaiting for yr kind reply for valuable advice. Thanks n Cheers
catdumpling
on 03/28/2013
"Should we worry about material from which the capacitor is made?" when it come to guitars, not really. the value of ceramic caps tends to drift more with temperature changes than poly/film caps, but other than that it doesn't really matter. drift and a sometimes-shorter lifespan are the only reason i don't usually use ceramic caps (although if a guitar comes with them and sounds good, i don't bother changing them "just because".) PiO caps tend to drift too, and there's a reason they're rarely used in modern electronics anymore. Orange Drops aren't terribly expensive (they can be had for about $2 each), but i'll usually just go with Xicon or some other "chicklet" caps, which tend to cost about 75 cents a piece. i think PiO caps are kind of pointless and don't sound any different than any other cap: it's the cap value, not the material, that changes the tone. i tried a set of PiO caps once...they sounded exactly the same as the other poly caps that were in the guitar before (but they took up more space.) i don't even think very many vintage guitars ever came with PiO caps to begin with, although i could be wrong about that. there are plenty of capacitor tone tests (some very scientifically done), and pretty much all of them have shown that cap material makes zero difference in tone. of course, the guys that are trying to sell you "reproduction" Bumblebee's for disgustingly inflated prices will beg to differ...i wonder why? [<--that was rhetorical.]
AmpBuilder
on 02/19/2013
"higher working voltage on caps gets a bigger size cap for any particular capacitance and will be more reliable because the dielectric thickness is greater" Not true. I have here in front of me a cigar box-full of capacitors. There are 100V caps measuring 12.5mmH x 6mmD while there are 16V caps measuring 20mmH x 15mmD. The smaller voltage cap got a bigger can. And yeah guys, the 2200p for .022u is a typo.
CitizenC3
on 02/05/2013
Should we worry about material from which the capacitor is made? As far as I can see, a capacitor in the signal path, say, a DC blocking capacitor between stages in an amplifier, can affect the quality of the signal according to its construction. A capacitor which is shunting some of the higher frequencies signal to earth is only effective because of its capacitive value. So why waste money on an expensive "orange drop"? True, a more costly component may be closer to its nominal value, but in a variable RC circuit, does this matter?
garyS-NJ
on 12/01/2012
higher working voltage on caps gets a bigger size cap for any particular capacitance and will be more reliable because the dielectric thickness is greater (
Charlie Mac
on 12/01/2012
I hate it when guys wanna give me 3 paragraphs of how bad ass they are and then garble the answer with a bunch of geek speak. GL
DiscoInferno
on 11/03/2012
Ah, Chris:

" As best as I could measure there might have been 100Hz differece between the two (i.e. not audible and reasonably explained by differences in tolerances of the capacitor value)."

the hearing range of humans is 20-20,000 hz. you're an older person yes? Probably unlikely to hear the "mosquito ringtone" kids use in school?
DiscoInferno
on 11/03/2012
Not everyone can hear a difference for the same reason people with preconceptions can't break away from an earlier mental image or model of how it is supposed to work, without substantial supporting evidence.

Also, not everyone can hear a difference for the same reason people who are color blind cant see certain colors or are completely chromatically blind apart from black and white.

http://medical-dictionary.thef reedictionary.com/chromatic+vision

Di fferent people have hearing that develops differently, despite having "perfect" and undamaged eardrums and and other important body parts required for hearing tone, pitch, etc. The less variety and consistency of differing sounds you hear as a baby, the less you can "perceive" when you're older. They did this on rats.

And then there's the people who actually HAVE hearing damage or defect like colorblind people, at a physical level. They also wouldn't "hear a difference".

Some people say pickup selection makes no audible difference to them in youtube comments. I've "attuned" my hearing, through repeated experiment, to be able to pick out every little detail of my own pickup blend control, so now I can hear the difference, but it took A: practice, and B: being able to play with it myself at extreme ends to be able to hear difference in the middles.

This subject is just one of those things that will always be subjective because there's not really any pressing need to run a truly scientific experiment.
Chris
on 09/28/2012
Would a Masters in Electrical Engineering and 10 years experience designing circuits for Telecommunications and Audio be enough for ya'll to beleive me when I say the the voltage makes NO difference?! As long as the voltage rating of the cap is above the peak values that will be presented to either lead of the capacitor (lest it turn into a small bonfire and someone else mentioned...) then the voltage of the cap is irrelevant.

Just to prove this to myself I went out into my workshop and got two .047uF capacitors one 50V and one 100V and wired up two simple series RC circuits (as is found in common guitar/bass tone controls) with 2 x 250k pots wound on full. I then fed in a variable signal from my audio signal generator at 0.5V P-P. I put my oscilloscope across the circuit and measured the frequency of the signal that came out. As I varied the frequency of the inout signal between 10 and 20kHz. BOTH CIRCUITS, began to roll off the signal at about 15.5kHz. As best as I could measure there might have been 100Hz differece between the two (i.e. not audible and reasonably explained by differences in tolerances of the capacitor value).

Also if you look up the formula on Google (or anywhere) for calculating the resonant value of an RC circuit, NONE of the standard formula mention the voltage of any of the components. This formula has been the staple of Analog circuit design for generations, I don't think it's wrong!!

As Dirk said the Orange Drop caps come in different voltages becasue they are used in Amp where you can find 600V+ easily in some cases, manufacturers use caps that are just above what is required to save on money AND real estate space on the circuit board.
Andy
on 08/28/2012
I found your web site very informative.
I have made a stompin beat box and I would like to improve the bass tone. Can I use a cap with a passive non-active Piezoelectric buzzer, (pick-up)to improve my bass tone.



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