August 2009 \ Vintage & Upkeep \ Trash or Treasure \ Baldwin Model C1 Amplifier

Baldwin Model C1 Amplifier

Zachary Fjestad

Zachary sheds some light on the history of Baldwin amplifiers, and specifically the Bladwin Professional, or Model C1.


Premier Guitar August 2009

Hey Zach,
I was hoping you could shed some light on this Baldwin Professional amplifier I’ve had for several years. I rarely use it, but I was thinking it might be a neat amp for my son, who is really starting to get interested in guitars. Please tell me as much as you can about this amp and an approximate value!

Jim in Joliet, Illinois

Hey Jim,
I’m glad to hear that your son is interested in guitars—it’s mainly up to parents to get kids involved in music today, and I applaud your efforts. If your son truly has guitar fever, he’ll love to play through just about any amplifier you show him. Trial and error is all part of the guitar experience when it comes to selecting gear, and since you already have this amp in your house, you might as well start there and see where it goes. Let’s take a look at Baldwin and the Professional model you have.

Dwight Hamilton Baldwin opened a music store in Cincinnati, OH, in 1862 and by the 1960s, Baldwin was one of the largest piano and organ manufacturers in the world. In response to the guitar boom of the early 1960s, Baldwin decided to expand into guitars. A little known fact is that in 1964, Baldwin tried to buy Fender before CBS became involved—think of what Baldwin and Fender would be today if that had happened! Instead, Baldwin ended up buying Burns guitars from English luthier Jim Burns in 1965. Burnsbuilt guitars began appearing in the US labeled as Baldwins on the headstock. This arrangement with Burns lasted through 1970 and ended largely because Baldwin bought a much larger trademark/company in 1967: Gretsch.

It was around the same time in 1965 that Baldwin began building guitar amplifiers. All assembly took place in the Fayetteville, AR, organ plant, which was supervised by Stan Krueger. Baldwin amps utilized a very innovative design from the late 1960s with a solid-state chassis. Another unique feature of Baldwin guitar amplifiers is the “Supersound” tone circuit controlled by the colorful push buttons on the right-hand side of the control panel. These were basically pre-set EQ settings for Treble, Mid 1, Mid 2, Bass, and a mix. A three-way toggle switch allowed the user to switch between normal operation, Supersound operation, and dual operation. All of these effects could be switched while in operation, and according to Baldwin’s factory catalog, “Hear it, and you might think it’s a happening,” whatever that means!

While your amp says it is a “Professional” it is actually the Model C1 (Custom Amplifier with Supersound). It features 45W power RMS (125W peak), 2x12” Baldwin-designed nylon-reinforced speakers, two channels, tremolo, reverb, four inputs (two per channel), nine knobs (Ch. 1: Volume, Bass, Treble, Ch. 2: Volume, Bass, Treble, Tremolo Speed, Tremolo Intensity, and Reverb), and the Supersound circuit with five push-buttons and a three-way switch. A two-button footswitch is included as well. It’s all encased with attractive baby blue side panels, a black speaker grille, and a brushed aluminum control panel. We’re talking serious ‘60s groove here, baby!

Most reports and reviews on these amplifiers indicate that they sounded full and responsive, but again, they are from the dinosaur era of 1960s solid-state amplifiers. Since Baldwin was a piano and organ manufacturing company to begin with, the amps actually have many tendencies towards organs, such as pushbutton presets. Because of these factors, collectors and players have never really taken an interest in these amps. Today, this amplifier is worth between $325 and $400, which is quite a bit of amp for not a lot of money.

Baldwin ceased amplifier production in 1970 to fully devote time to Gretsch (although Baldwin did offer some Gretsch amps in the early 1970s, they were Sonax branded, which were built in Canada). As long as this amplifier is in full working order, your son could have many hours of enjoyment experimenting with the Supersound circuit, which is a treasure in itself, regardless of the monetary value!


Zachary R. Fjestad
Zachary is the author of the Blue Book of Acoustic Guitars, Blue Book of Electric Guitars, and the Blue Book of Guitar Amplifiers. Questions can be submitted to:
Blue Book Publications
Attn: Guitar Trash or Treasure
8009 34th Ave. S. Ste #175
Minneapolis, MN 55425
800-877-4867
bluebookinc.com
guitars@bluebookinc.com

     

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Mick Desjardins
on 04/06/2013
I'm looking for the name and price of an old Gretsch Bass and Organ Head and Cabinet, like the one I used to have and not know anything about, that was stolen... I know its not any that I can search for that are 'more' common on the Internet i.e. the Chet Atkins, or the Super Bass... The Instrument Inputs were on the right hand side instead of the left, slant in design with a straight speaker cabinet, 2 channels, ALL tube!! Black and Gold, with GRETSCH Logo, in pretty bold... m.desjardins@live.com
Bruno Thunder
on 02/23/2013
I just got a C1 in near mint condition with original protective cover. Aside from looking awesome, it sounds quite good and is surprisingly loud. I still have to try it alongside a drummer and band, but I'm confident it will cut through the mix just fine. Seems to take the fuzz pedal quite well.
R Hanson
on 01/06/2013
I have a Baldwin Exterminator amp 250 watts it has 2-15", 2-12", and 2-7" speakers in the cabinet. About 4' tall, this thing is UBER poud and it will shake beer bottles off of tables and make beer foam in the pitcher, knock pictures off walls ... well you get the idea. I need to sell it and I will list on ebay if I do not get anyhits on here. Thanks, robert55371@yahoo.com
Hendrik
on 10/31/2012
Does anybody have a Baldwin classical guitar for sale? Model 801CP or 800C? They were build to work with the Baldwin C1 and C2 amplifiers. The piezo pickup on the these two guitars needed to be driven by the built in phantom power of the amps. I appreciate it if you could contact me by mailing hendriksibma [at] hotmail [dot] com Thanks, Hendrik
Scott
on 08/27/2012
If anyone has a Baldwin C1 in very good (or better) shape that they are willing to sell, please call me at 301-763-5049 or e-mail me at scott.morison@infotechsa.com I borrowed my cousin's C1 in the mid 1970's and blew it up, and I would love to surprise him, by having yours sent to him, unannounced with a note saying something like: "Cousin Wayne, I think I owe you one of these, sorry it took so long to get to you!, Scott." Thanks in advance to anyone that can come through for me!!!!
Riley
on 05/26/2012
A friend of mine gave me one of these amps lst week. Did some very moderate service on it and took it to my gig last night. I didn't get to set up the steel but it sounded very marvlous with a tele. Very close to tube sound with just the right breakup. Sad that output transistors r no lnger avaailable..would like to find a schematic, but guess will just have to use it hre at home. Too nice to abuse...
joe
on 04/23/2012
I have a ci amp needs tlc I've had it over 25 years thinking about selling it or buying one for parts works very well joesound1120@gmail.com
joesound
on 04/23/2012
I have one good condition may see I'v had it over 25 years
Wayne Short
on 01/21/2012
I swapped a traynor yba1 head for a baldwin c-1.Somone cut the cabinet down,they removed the wood toward the bottom of the cabinet.The cabinet being narrower at the top,caused the bottom to stick out farther in front and back.I totaly rebuilt and recoverd the cabinet.It looks great,however while trying to relocate the reverb tank,I shorted somthing out,and it quit working.A friend and I removed and tested the transistors.Problem is we removed them all at once,without marking their location.I believe some are NPN,and some are PNP. type.The amp sounds great for steel guitar,and it is my hope to find a schematic for this model.If anyone has one I can be contacted at 248-398-2653 (HELP).
Chris Potter
on 09/18/2011
I am in possession of a Baldwin Professional Exterminator if anyone is interested. From what I can see it's mostly functional. Does need a few pots and such cleaned, but it does work, and I'm confident they were being conservative when they rated this beast at only 250 watts. Feel free to contact me, gonzo1967@gmail.com. Thanks! Chris Potter, Texas



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