April 2010 \ Reviews \ Digidesign Eleven Rack Review

Digidesign Eleven Rack Review

Digidesign's Eleven Rack lives up to its hype as an ultra-useful performing and recording tool for pros


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With Amp - Charvel So-Cal w/DiMarzio Humbuckers, into Eleven Rack, PRS 30 & 1x12, mic'd with SM57, into Pro Tools
There’s been a lot of buzz about the Eleven Rack, the revolutionary new guitar recording and effects processing system from Digidesign. Along with that buzz come a lot of questions from producers, engineers and guitar players: Exactly how does it work, and how will it help me as a player or producer? How can this be used both in the studio and live? And of course, how does it sound? I quickly learned that it’s not just a multi-effects unit, it’s not just an amp modeler and it’s not just a Pro Tools interface. It’s actually all of the above and more. The Eleven Rack is an all-in-one solution for the modern guitar player, and it makes it easier than ever to record in the studio and perform live—while fully integrating the exact same sounds in both situations.

The Eleven Rack can be used as a stand-alone guitar processor—without the need for a computer—for live applications. It includes incredible emulations of classic guitar amps, cabinets and stompboxes, as well as a powerful collection of studio-quality rackmount effects processors and microphone emulations. You can also incorporate your favorite stompboxes and effects into the Eleven Rack with an integrated effects loop that can be assigned and moved almost anywhere within the signal chain.

In addition, the Eleven Rack performs double duty as a high-quality interface for Digidesign Pro Tools, and it comes with Pro Tools LE 8 recording, editing and mixing software. The interface itself is dual-DSP powered, which means you won’t have to worry about latency issues when recording—and it also frees up processing power in the computer. There are eight simultaneous recording channels at 24-bit/96 kHz, with a wide array of ins and outs, including S/PDIF, AES/EBU, XLR, and 1/4" outputs, a mic input, and two 1/4" line level inputs. The Pro Tools software includes over 70 plugins, including reverb, delay, chorus, distortion, flanger, phaser, reverse, EQ and compression. It also contains powerful virtual instruments to create backing tracks, including drum machines, piano, organ, synthesizer and a synth/sample workstation with tons of instruments. Basically, it’s got everything you need to create a high-quality recording all on your own.

A Long Time in the Making
I’ve been using Pro Tools since the mid ’90s. Back then, I used it mostly for editing and mixing digital audio. MIDI sequencing wasn’t fully integrated into the software yet, so I had to use separate sequencing software and import audio from my programmed tracks into Pro Tools for mixing. There also weren’t any decent amp-simulator plug-ins at the time, so anytime I wanted to record guitar I did it the old-fashioned way, by placing a mic in front of my amp and recording into Pro Tools. I had to be fully committed in terms of guitar sound, because there was no chance of changing my guitar tone later by re-amping since I never split my guitar signal to record a separate, uneffected guitar track. Pro Tools software has grown a lot over the years, and I’ve watched each improvement with satisfaction. Creativity flowed a lot more frequently and easily as more and more plug-ins and features were created. First, MIDI sequencing became more integrated, and eventually more amp simulators and effects for guitarists became available. I’ve tried them all and found something I liked in each one of them. When Digidesign released the Eleven amp-simulator plug-in, I thought it really captured the essence and sound of some classic amps. Still, I didn’t use it exclusively because it just didn’t have the wide array of effects and amps that I found in other guitar plug-ins.

I will admit that when I first heard about the Eleven Rack, I quickly (and incorrectly) assumed it was just a hardware version of the Eleven plug-in with the same amp sounds and parameters that could be easily adjusted using the real knobs on the interface instead. When I saw that it was also an interface for Pro Tools LE, I thought, “Why do I need that? I already have Pro Tools software with an interface and the Eleven plug-in?” Well, you know what happens when you assume! After reading and learning more about the Eleven Rack and all of its features, I couldn’t have been more wrong. I really wanted to hear how the amps and effects sounded, especially since so many of them weren’t previously available in the Eleven plug-in. Also, I was curious to see if the Eleven Rack interface would work in conjunction with my existing Digidesign 002 Rack interface, or if it would actually replace it.

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Jason
on 01/30/2012
The only problem I have found with my eleven rack is a constant buzz in the background which sounds like a grounding issue. Has anyone else ran into anything like this?
Zombiejunk
on 12/20/2011
Honestly, there is a switching delay. This fact makes the 11R unusable for live! ´Don´t get me wrong, the sounds are great! really great! but switching delays??? It is 2011 and regarding to this it´s defenitly a NO GO!
Roman
on 11/01/2011
For anyone seriously considering the Eleven Rack check out the EP that my band just released. ALL GUITAR TRACKS were done with the Eleven Rack. www.reverbnation.com/severthesenses
TLTD
on 03/02/2011
Eleven Rack is awesome, I've had it almost a year and still haven't done everything I have planned because I get sidetracked trying different preamps with and without the amps and cabs, etc. Reamping tracks and using a wah later on and adding divebombs with my Pitchfactor stomp box was nice to see. Seems like anything I can think up, I can do. I finally switched back to Cakewalk because I wanted to try Recabinet 3. I think at this stage in the game, people know how to tweak around with Line 6, Axe FX, and Eleven Rack but you owe it to yourself to think about the possibilities and there are a lot more with Eleven Rack overall and you don't get that weird "samey" digital sound even if the only two things you have are a guitar, OD, and the 11R. I only do direct recording, but I hear that this is a very good live box from people I see in person. Some cover bands use them for 80s stuff that I have heard. I have made a few presets I like, but going back through the presets I am learning to trust the ones they already have now that I see they are made for specific sound. I tried some riffing through "7 String King" and left it alone and my Mesa Boogie Quad on Mark IIC cruch ch into it is the biggest baddest sound I have ever had. You can get this sound a lil cheaper by just buying the recording preamp. I might sell it and just get that because that's all you need really. The only think I like about the MKIII ch is combining it with ch 1 for leads. But any preamp really would sound cool and I recommend it. I have 3 preamps now and am still under budget of the Axe FX price and sounding way better, and knobs are so much faster to turn than deep editing and all that crap.
Lance
on 02/11/2011
Eleven Rack Mods Available..Checkout TheToneDoctor dot com.
Tom Hartman
on 08/27/2010
The Eleven software version and rack version are identical in sound except for the rack's ability to add speaker cone distortion.
PeteScud
on 07/25/2010
I've owned both and for the money, you can't beat a Eleven Rack. To me just to be put in the same sentence as a Axe FX is incredible, considering a new 11R now is $699 on ebay, and a Axe is at the least $1399ish with no recording interface or midi interface. I'll admit, i think the Axe FX is more my preference and better, but both are incredible units just the same...I say own both if you can
Ben
on 07/11/2010
Axe is the way to go if you want to sound like every amp has a distortion pedal in front of it. Listen to way 11 handles the Lows notes in the clips. You hear the tube fattening sound, grit and fuzz. Axe fx has none of that..its like there is tube screamer in front. He got the distortion wrong so it sounds like solid state on the low strings. Yes, the quality of sound is great..but anyone who knows tubes hears that lame SS lowend on the Axe
Steve
on 07/02/2010
Could someone please talk about the latency when switching between presets?
VaiSatchAtru cci
on 04/06/2010
The only issue I have with the review is it makes it sound like you HAVE to use ProTools and this is not true at all. I was able to use it in Logic Pro and do everything that it can do in Pro Tools except the embedding of the rig settings in the track. Re-amping and all that is done easily within Logic (recording direct guitar signal and full rig signal simultaneously) so that is very misleading. You also don't get the on screen editor, but all you have to do is open ProTools to have access to that - you don't even have to open a session to view it so the "Skip if:" comment at the end of the review is not accurate in my opinion with the only drawback having nothing to do with actually using it to record with. Also to answer another posters question : no there is zero latency changing patches IF you are using a midi controller - but yes if you are manually changing via the front knob to scroll through presets. Lastly, if you need more effects then what the Eleven Rack offers and don't care about reamping or being able to recall rig settings on the fly of a previoulsy recorded track or don't need a pro-tools interface, or need pro-tools 8LE, or want to actually feel like and sound like you are playing through an actual amp then get an AxeFX - otherwise save your money and get an Eleven Rack and use SOME of the difference money wise you'd save and purchase a Ground Control Pro - then use the other $200 on a rack bag, cables, expression pedals, etc... or just buy an AxeFX and wonder how you are going to afford to control it, transport it, and hook it up... the comparisons to me aren't legitimate when you compare everything the Eleven Rack brings to the table that the AxeFX can't do at all. To me, the savings money wise justifies the Eleven Rack alone on top of what it can do. The AxeFX sounds great no doubt and I wouldn't say the sims are better or worse, but it doesn't FEEL like you are playing an amp to me through the AxeFX but you have to compare th



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