December 2010 \ Features \ Artist Interview \ Snowy White: Wailing on the Wall

Snowy White: Wailing on the Wall

Adam Perlmutter

Pink Floyd first recruited Snowy White and his ’57 goldtop Les Paul to back them on the road in 1976. Thirty-four years later, vocalist/bassist Roger Waters is still relying on the bluesman and his handful of Boss and Line 6 pedals to pull off an epic presentation of "The Wall."


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When he was 18 and living in Sweden, White traded a Strat for this 1957 goldtop Les Paul. Ever since,
it has been his main touring guitar for gigs with Pink Floyd, Thin Lizzy, and Roger Waters. The label
on the side of the flight case reads “Snowy’s Baby.” Photo by Snowy White


Are your AC30s new or vintage?

They’re new. The thing with Vox, for me, is that they’re all good—a new one, an old one. As long as it’s been looked after, they’re all great.

Let’s talk about your effects.

I don’t use a lot when I’m doing my own thing, but with Roger I obviously need to use a few bits and pieces. I’ve got this Line 6 M9 stompbox that I’m using for the first time. I can get all my repeats and delays—it’s great and works really well. For my basic sound, I use a little Boss Blues Driver, which gives me a bit of an edge. I haven’t got much else really: an Ernie Ball volume pedal, a Boss OverDrive, and a Boss Rotary Ensemble, and that’s about it.

What about strings and picks?

That’s a really good question, because I have no idea what brand of strings I’m using—it depends on what my guitar techs have. For me, to be honest, all brands sound good. I do know the gauges, though: On my Les Paul, I use a light top and heavy bottom—.010, .013, .017, .030, .042, and .052—since I hit the bass strings really hard. The Stratocaster can’t really handle those heavy strings, so I use a regular light set on that guitar. As for picks, when I was with Thin Lizzy the road crew made some little white ones in the size I like with my name on them— 3000 of them. This was in 1980, and I’ve still got a couple hundred left. But when I’m playing my music, I hardly use a pick at all. Sometimes I don’t even take one onstage with me. With Roger’s thing, I use a pick most of the time.

What was it like as a more or less traditional blues player working with huge rock bands like Pink Floyd and Thin Lizzy in the 1970s?

It’s true that I’m quite a narrow person in my playing. I’ve always been into blues and haven’t really expanded my playing beyond it, because I’m very content to do what I do. But, funnily enough, the original Pink Floyd gig was actually very based in blues when you broke it down. I mean, I could play my sort of guitar in Pink Floyd and it wasn’t out of place. And so I was really pleased when I was invited to be their first augmenting guitar player in 1976. I hadn’t really heard Pink Floyd, because if it wasn’t blues, I didn’t listen to it. So when they sent me the albums to listen to, I was pleasantly surprised. David Gilmour played some really nice guitar and I thought, “Oh, I can fit in here quite nicely. And I think I did. It worked out okay. In a way, things were the same with Thin Lizzy—there’s a lot of harmony guitar work in there, but it’s really mostly blues licks. That was good fun. I very much enjoyed playing the harmony guitar with Scott Gorham. It was a great band with great songs.


White mics his stock, recent-vintage Vox AC30s just slightly off axis with a
pair of Shure SM57s. Photo by Snowy White


How does working with Roger Waters these days compare to playing with Pink Floyd three decades ago?

Musically, it’s very much the same as the original Wall. And it’s quite strange, really, because that was 30 years ago and I’m still playing the same songs. But the songs have a freshness to me—they never get boring. I’ve heard them so many times, and I still look forward to playing them, because even if you have to do the same licks every night, you can still try to get them a little bit sweeter, a little bit more on the button, a little bit nicer. There’s always a little sort of contest there—just try and make it a bit better ever night. I quite enjoy that. When I originally played with Pink Floyd, David Gilmour was very generous, always giving me solos. When I listen to some of the things I did to start with, I hear that I just went for my thing in my solos and didn’t really think about what the song needed. And I must have disappointed a lot of people, because they knew all of the original solos. So nowadays I’ve tempered my approach and think a bit more about the context.

What did you do to prepare for this Wall tour?

I just got out the album and listened through, and it all came back to me. Until we started rehearsing, we didn’t know who was going to play what, especially among the guitarists. We had to shuffle it around a bit, so we each had a reasonable amount to do. Apart from that, it was all fairly straightforward.

What has been like working with guitarists Dave Kilminster and G.E. Smith on the tour?


Dave Kilminster is a great musician. He notated all of Dave Gilmour’s solos and learned them intimately. I really enjoy listening to him nail the solos each night. I’ve never notated anything, by the way. I’ve done a lot of bluffing in my time, and I’ve learned to bluff really well. That or I’ve learned to sidestep really well. G.E.’s great, too. I didn’t know G.E. before this tour, and he’s a fine guitar player. He’s what I call a real musician—he plays all sorts of things and is into all sorts of music. He’s great to be on the road with. He’s got so many stories, and I really enjoy listening to his solos in the show, as well. The thing is, because the show’s so structured and we have our separate parts, we don’t play off of each other very much. But Dave, G.E., and I do listen to, appreciate, and complement each other.

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Bård Kvale
on 07/13/2012
If a man can share his sould with his guitar, it must be Snowy White. Thanks for giving us sounds of Paradise in our ears.
Andrew Greetham
on 07/11/2011
Excellent article on one of the most talented guitarist alive today.He first came into my life with Lizzy on the Chinatown tour. His playing relationship with Scott Gorham was sublime. It would be great if they could get together again on the project Scott has on re-mastering the early Lizzy songs. Having seen Snowy at the O2 am off to bosuil in September. Your interview does him and his music proud.
Nobby Clarke
on 04/08/2011
I have been an big fan of Snowy for years and I have always ried to emulate his style and emotion but cant touch him. Can anyone tell me how tio get a signed photo of him for our disabilty youth club
Bob
john
on 03/16/2011
i am a huge snowy fan this is great interview .snowy is an amazing guitar player very underrated his playing is perfect awesome guitar sound and tone very similar to that of peter green and on some of his music like mark knopfler i think that might be because of the out of phase pickup thing on there les pauls.
Christopher
on 02/02/2011
Personally i really cant get enough of snowy white my wife was able to purchase some of his cds recently for me they have been well listened to, i hope to connect with some of the newer recordings soon, i think the man is a genius and still ahead of his game at 62 so keep it up who knows may be we will meet the next time you visiting Belfast, signing off now Revd c j c
kevin
on 01/28/2011
top guitarist in the universe beautiful sound and touch ...bird of paradise is wonderful ...stil makes me weep
Daniel Kruse
on 12/06/2010
I recently heard Snowy perform in Omaha on the Wall tour. Incredible show! All three guitarists were just wonderful. Tonemeisters: all three of them.
BDD
on 12/02/2010
Thank you SO MUCH for a great article on a criminally under-rated player. I first saw Snowy about 10 years ago on TV playing for Roger Waters' In The Flesh tour and I was totally transfixed by his tone and style. Plus, that Goldtop is the coolest beat-up LP ever. Thanks so much for a great article!
Henryk
on 11/29/2010
I didn't know who Snowy White was till I heard on the radio "Bird of Paradise." Oh, how I love this song and its guitar solo. Later I found out about Pink Floyd tours. I hope to see him with Waters in LA, I need to check when they are scheduled for the Wall.
Len Whitehead
on 11/28/2010
Great report......although slight error in that the Drummer in the Snowy White Blues Project (also in the photo, and on the album) is Roy Martin.



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