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Interview: Dann Huff, part 2: On Studio Preparedness and Recording Tips

Elianne Halbersberg

Award-winning producer Dann Huff shares his studio tips


Premier Guitar January 2010

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Last week, Premier Guitar spoke with Dann Huff about making records on Music Row, cultivating relationships with the artists he works with, and how he applies the latest technology to these projects. This week the award-winning producer, legendary session player and former lead guitarist for 1980s rock band Giant discusses the craft of recording guitars, offers tips for studio preparation, gives insight about the new generation of players, and shares some experience-based advice for professional musicians.

In the studio with Dann Huff: Let’s start with some tips for harmonizing guitar lines with vocals.

The biggest tip is you have to listen and digest the main melody of the song you’re recording. All other melodies need to be subservient to that. There is no way to give more definition. The key thing is that the more you know a song, the more you know what you’re playing to, the more what you play will be effective. The biggest mistake is when they want to hear themselves. That’s where you run into problems. People ask how to become an effective studio guitar player. I don’t know if it can be taught. There’s so much intuitive talent. The pertinent point is melody. Accompany and accentuate the main melody. How do you do it? It plays as big a part because they all have to accentuate and make certain moments of tension and release to the main melody, but you can’t dissect it from the rhythm. The most important word to music is relationship: sound, rhythm, melody, everything is in the relationship. Does it make that song more poignant and emotional? Then get into the nuance and texture and content of the vocal. Sometimes the melody you play—or don’t play—decides it. It’s all relationship-based. There’s a lot of vague area here. Listen to great songs and how they were articulated.

For the iTunes generation, the instant access is unbelievable, but it goes hand in hand with irreverence, too. When we purchased music years ago there was reverence for the whole thing. Now the technology is unbelievable. I love buying music online and hearing things when I want to hear them, but it also devalues it. One of the largest obstacles for the next generation is finding that reverence for music and gear. When a kid had one amp and one guitar, the upkeep and maintenance created reverence. Now, with 30 virtual amps in my computer, how reverent can I be? You’ve got to find it somewhere. That’s the Holy Grail, because if there is no reverence, you’re not making effective music. It’s different for everybody, but you’ve got to have that point where you hold that up or you’ll just be making a lot of noise. In other words, there is no answer!

It’s exciting and daunting looking over the cliff, looking out into the ether land of possibilities. This is a different time in history; we’re so narcissistic to think we’re the only ones it happened to. There have been real advancements in music, certainly from the guitar standpoint. When we get over the newness and clutter of possibilities, people will get down and do stuff. Pay homage to the past, but trying to be anything other than who you are is pointless. Stevie Ray Vaughan was one of the greatest, but he’s already been. You have to be different. Copy until you have enough in your repertoire, and then say it differently.


Bassists and drummers always talk about being "in the pocket." Where does the guitarist fit into that equation?

Exactly the same way. The 13-year-old guitar player who plays with my son is unbelievable. He’s got chops and repertoire, solos and licks, more than I had at that age. I told him, “If you want to work as a guitar player, rhythm is key. That’s where the work is.” The solo is the icing, but the rhythm—when you play as a guitarist in a rhythm section, you can destroy a great drummer and bass player if you don’t understand where the pocket is. Again, everything is relationship. Where do the bass and drums put the downbeat and backbeat? If it’s syncopated rhythm, where lies the relationship? What is the drummer doing on the hi-hat? It’s not just the notion of being tight. If you look at a computer and see all the bass, snare, tom and hi-hat hits, it doesn’t necessarily make it the right groove. We live in a world of a grid and cutting and pasting. That’s not groove. Groove lies outside of that. Twelve notes can be mediocre or great. The same with groove. It’s technical and physical but also emotional, and some of the greatest grooves are not tight. It’s being able to differentiate between the two.

For example, I like playing ever so slightly behind the drums to hear the initial attack of the kick or snare milliseconds before I hear the pick strike. It also makes the drums sound bigger. If you’re on top of one another, it diminishes their sound. I prefer to hear the drums in advance of the guitar or bass. When I started, it was a feel thing. There was no Pro Tools; I couldn’t “see” the music and the science of the groove. Having said that, I’m such an admirer of Eddie Van Halen; he’s one of the greatest rock rhythm guitar players of all time and he didn’t play behind the drums, so it shows different possibilities that exist. He played a little ahead, but he led the way with that band and it was devastatingly effective. Some Memphis players are so far behind the beat you’d think they were asleep. Everybody wants to know, but there is no answer. People show us the way, we hear and feel it, and if you limit yourself to that as right and wrong, you miss the point. The point is that it can happen any way you think. It comes down to, "Does something move you?"

Let’s talk about tracking a two-guitar band.

It’s listening and composition, finding sounds that are like a hand in a glove that work well within the composition. It’s rhythmically learning to listen to the other guys, and making sure you’re not sitting in the exact same EQ placement of sound or canceling each other out. Some bands all have the same amps and it’s difficult to sound individual. I like one guy with a P-90 single coil and one guy with a humbucker doing different things rhythmically and always listening to one another. Everyone wants to be the loudest, so sometimes it’s talking one guitar player into understanding that it’s okay to have the smaller sound, and that sometimes it’s really smart to be that guy.

What prep work should guitarists do before the sessions begin?

Hopefully, their gear is in good working order. That’s a real elementary step, but having intonated guitars is a good place to start. Amps and cables that work. A good tuner. Always check your tuning. I’ve devoted years of my life to tuning. It sounds like Elementary Guitar 101, but show up early! Know the songs. Have an idea or at least a starting point. Get to know your engineer. Be a part of getting the sound. Be involved. I’ve been in situations where guys come in and … please, make sure your guitar is in tune and the tubes aren’t rattling.

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charlesjmy
on 03/20/2010
ahhhhh im that 13 year old boy he is talking about!!!!!
Johnny Hunkins
on 01/29/2010
Dann's album, "Last Of The Runaways," (with Giant) is arguably one of the best rock albums ever. If it's possible to wear the grooves out of a CD, I've done it with that one. If you can possibly get your hands on that album, it's absolutely incredible. I actually got to see them play live at the NAMM show back in '89 or '90.

Dann also produced the latest Blackberry Smoke album. It's totally off the hook.
Byron
on 01/22/2010
I really enjoyed the interview...and can relate to alot of things said in the comments... my brother plays drums and i play rythym and lead guitar...ever since we were in our teens we we had a brotherly intuision about the beat and now that we have experimented with rythym tracks, have really found that the live rythym without the mechanical tracks alows the music to "breath" and have more life...i have been accused alot of times of not playing loud enough and i was told by an engineer that that was because my hearing was very selective and that i was trying to mix the music while i played live...i think that this may be true but when you consider the great blue grass bands of the past and present that use only one microphone for the whole band then they are in fact a live mixingboard and each knows his or her own part and works together as a whole unit...i have found that this type of unselfish performance has lead to some of the most beattiful saounds and in effect a listener is a good player and alot of times very humble and very talented...
niagara
on 01/21/2010
Pretty good article. Thanx PG.
Bill Compeau
on 01/05/2010
Perfect article! Tons of great advice and yet so down to earth; Bravo!!!
davidp158
on 01/02/2010
Its great to see an article like this, and I wish music magazines and web sites would do a LOT more of it. Dan's advice, attitude and approach obviously works, given the artists and recordings he is associated with. Consider too that his comments are also applicable outside of the studio (on stage and when rehearsing).
Boro
on 01/02/2010
Dan is obviously not only a great guitarist and engineer but also quite an intuitive persuader ;-) Yeah, his polite and intellectually unoffensive approach gives the younger guitarists (and other players, too!) a fantastic opportunity to learn more about themselves and the better ways to express what they have to say musically. Well, I couldn't agree more that it's worth every second spent learning more about the meaning, etymology, purpose and functions of some too often misunderstood and underestimated terms like: - composition; - arrangement/orchestration; - groove; - critical listening (dealing with music it does not stand for "judicial", let alone "damnatory"!); - tone; - dynamics, etc. How many of the younger today's guitarists you know could define these terms listed above to demonstrate they are at least somewhere close to being knowledgeable? How many of them (that you know) can listen to a great song and actually hear what is played by the different musicians and why? I truly believe anyone who's lucky enough to work in close proximity with Dann would gain enormously in every single aspect! Great man! Dann, I really wish we were friends! Boro www.hizproductions.com
Boro
on 01/02/2010
Dann is obviously not only a great guitarist and engineer but also quite an intuitive persuader ;-) Yeah, his polite and intellectually unoffensive approach gives the younger guitarists (and other players, too!) a fantastic opportunity to learn more about themselves and the better ways to express what they have to say musically. Well, I couldn't agree more that it's worth every second spent learning more about the meaning, etymology, purpose and functions of some too often misunderstood and underestimated terms like: - composition; - arrangement/orchestration; - groove; - critical listening (dealing with music it does not stand for "judicial", let alone "damnatory"!); - tone; - dynamics, etc. How many of the younger today's guitarists you know could define these terms listed above to demonstrate they are at least somewhere close to being knowledgeable? How many of them (that you know) can listen to a great song and actually hear what is played by the different musicians and why? I truly believe anyone who's lucky enough to work in close proximity with Dann would gain enormously in every single aspect! Great man! Dann, I really wish we were friends! Boro www.hizproductions.com
C. D. Sky
on 01/01/2010
In 1982 I was a sophomore in high school and I heard this brand new Christian rock band called Whiteheart. The band included two brothers: a drummer named David Huff and a guitarist named Dann. Soon after Dann Huff was showing up on every record and tape I was buying.

As a guitar player myself he influenced me considerably. A few years ago I was recording a song in the studio and I threw in a wah lick that all the guys really liked. It seemed vaguely familiar to me but it took a while for me to realize that the lick was based on a riff Dann Huff played in a Paula Abdul song some 15 years earlier!

This interview was such a pleasure to read. Dann is a phenomenal musician whose vast experiences lend extraordinary credibility to his sage advice. Here's to many more years of Dann!



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