September 2010 \ Reviews \ Amps \ Line 6 Spider Valve MKII 1x12 Combo Amp Review

Line 6 Spider Valve MKII 1x12 Combo Amp Review

Lyle Zaehringer

Line 6 continues to hone their digitally-designed, tube-powered amp models while attempting to pack even more effects into the latest incarnation of the Spider Valve line.


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The Many Modes
Plugging in my go-to Gibson SG, I immediately made the mistake of underestimating the amp’s volume. Again, the loudness is a big shocker. Playing alone on this amp was a lot of fun. It’s really inspiring to have so many estimations of great amps at your fingertips, and you’ll literally lose hours just tooling around with different models and effects. Using the amplifier’s Manual mode, I was able to operate it with only the knobs, like any other amp in my arsenal. Such is the way to get familiar with the Spider and to design your own presets. A few particular favorite models were both of the new models under the Class A mode. The yellow and blue modes emulate a Vox AC30 and a Divided by 13 9/5 (both new additions to this series), respectively. I’ve never played through a Divided by 13 amp, but I really enjoyed the tone of this emulation. Using my neck pickup and the amp’s Gain at 12 o’clock, the amp produced a clear, throaty midrange with a very expressive and raspy (in a good way) high-end bite. The AC30 emulation, similarly voiced to the other Class A emulation, was a worthy rendition of the chiming British classic, with a little less low end.

The two Hi Gain mode models were also impressive. The ’68 plexi emulation had a full low end, cutting mids, and balanced highs. Like most of the other models, this model lost definition and dynamics when the Gain was taken past 2 o’clock. The Diezel Herbert emulation (also new in this series) was where I spent most of my time playing. With a similar voicing to the ’68 Plexi emulator, this emulation had extended low frequencies, well-defined mids which sliced even when slightly scooped, and a sparkling and pseudo-complex high end.

The other new emulations include a Gretsch 6156 and an Orange AD30. Additional past emulations include a Marshall JCM-900, Hiwatt Custom 100, ‘60s Fender Blackface Twin (and Deluxe) Reverb, ‘50s wide panel Fender Deluxe, ’68 Marshall Plexi, and Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier. Having just reviewed Mesa’s newly redesigned Multi-Watt Dual Rec, I can say that even diehard Recto fans may appreciate this small approximation of their coveted tone beast, for practicing, writing, and as a portable stage backup. I wouldn’t venture to recommend it as a replacement.

The clean tones via the Clean and Twang modes were not terribly impressive (they weren’t terrible either), however using a compressor I was able to quickly turn an average clean sound into one that bloomed with expressive dynamics. The Insane mode is very aptly named. There is no genre of extreme metal that cannot be reached by the wealth of gain in the Spider Valve MKII. You’ll need an appropriate 4x12 cabinet to tap the appropriate ultra-lows required for uber-metal. With such high gain, though, comes immediate feedback, even at low volumes. Thankfully, the Spider’s gate does an excellent job at cleaning up unwanted feedback. This noise gate is very well implemented. It does not snap on and off immediately, but carefully and organically pulls the volume away.

I could write a small book analyzing the various sounds made by the Spider Valve MKII’s 16 amp models and 20 effects. Eventually though, what it boils down to is that some people are going to appreciate what the amp does and some are not.

The Verdict
Having spent a wealth of time playing this amp by myself, I was impressed and excited to give it a run at band practice. This, however, is where the amp showed some weaknesses. It was very easy to dial in way too much gain—and difficult to dial in the right amount—and despite the enormous volume, I had a difficult time cutting clearly through the mix. Adding a custom Avatar 2x12 cabinet loaded with Celestion Vintage 30s did help a bit.

Line 6’s website repeatedly uses the phrase “inspired by” to reference the amplifiers it emulates. Those two words essentially sum up my experience with the Spider Valve MKII. The upside is that it is a very nice emulation, especially when used as a practice amp, but the downside is that it is clearly not reaching for uncharted tonal territory.
Buy if...
you want a great practice/backup amplifier that will suit nearly every genre.
Skip if...
you don’t need built in effects or you want an amp that will wow you in the studio.
Rating...


Street $749.99 - Line 6 - line6.com

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Hutch
on 02/17/2013
I have had Spider Valve amps for two years. 212 and hd 100 Tones are nasty right out of the box. At this point two years later I finally have them tamed. You need the short board to do this: Seamless patch transitions. It was not easy. We basically had to set the low-volume-pedal-position-gain where we wanted them and and the high-position-gain where we wanted it for each patch. Now, even with the hd100, I have living room level and stage level at my feet. The stage levels all match one other and no one gets hurt. Without doing the above through some one would get hurt. This thing will throw an icepick like no other. Looking to get a 112 now that I got it "out of my system". These amps sound amazing once you tame them. Almost no audio artifacts too. Pure tone.
Greg M
on 09/05/2010
I have to agree with Rich, I had the first edition 112 and it scared me to death. I had the shortboard and tried to reset balances but you never knew what you were going to get out of that beast. Be careful if you have pets or small children! After having sunk nearly a $1000 dollars into the amp and shortboard I sold it for $400 and got a Fender HotRod Deluxe and a Fulltone GT-500 and am happy I made the switch. Line 6 has many good products such as the JM4 but they gave the Mad German too much leeway!
Rich Prestia
on 09/05/2010
I had this amp....got it at a HUGE sale at Sam Ash. I sold it a few months later. Granted....for some 'METAL-HEADS" it's a dream amp.....it's got that over-the-top distortion sound!
But ...I'm NOT 14 anymore. My tastes have matured and I now sit very comfortably in Blues-Rock territory.
I thought this amp could do that. It could.......but NOT convincingly!!
Too damned many 'tricks' and bells and whisltles going on!!!
I sold it (for a profit) and bought a nice Fender Deluxe Reverb! Put a Fulltone O.C.D. in front of this baby, and I'm in heaven!!
It's a nice amp for the 'kiddies'!!
Ted
on 09/04/2010
I have to agree with Mainly Tubes. You have to go through the process of tweaking your sounds with the band. You have so much tonal variety here that you can really get a bad sound if you don't know what you are doing. I use the Spider Valve MKII 1x12 and I also get comments about how amazing my sound is. I think knowing what a real Marshall sounds like, and how to eq it properly, is a big help when creating your sound. One more thing I have noticed is this...You are dealing with software, and software does not react the same way a simple tube amp design does. The 1st thing I see people do with this amp is grab the amp model knob and start turning it. While this does change the sound, it will not give you the best tone. You will have better success if you find a programmed patch with the amp model you want and then tweak that. Your comment about the clean sounds not being so good seems weird to me as well. Although, lets face it an all mahogany SG is not going to be the best clean machine out there. Try it with a Tele, and you won't believe the clean sounds. I use a Brian Moore C-90 custom, and I think the maple top really brings out more of the crisp highs that bring a clean sound to life.
jerry
on 09/03/2010
wow, great to get an honest review. I want line 6 to nail it but, they're not there yet, which sucks. I've had these amps and was not impressed and I'm a line 6 fan. this is a great magazine to have they were honest about the amp, and didn't pull any punches.
Mainly Tubes
on 09/03/2010
I play both tube amps and modelers depending on the situation. Having used other line 6 amps for years, I can testify to the need to re-eq separate patches of your favorite presets (factory or custom) for band/stage use.

If you do this via experimenting and maybe editing on band rehearsal breaks, the Line 6 amps can hang/cut remarkably well - and of course, nothing touches a modeler's tonal versatility.

I believe their decision to mate the modeling pre with a tube power section in the first Spider Valve was driven by the desire to have it behave more like a tube amp, warmer but with punch and cut 'at volume' in band situations.

Apparently there's still the need to redo patches, even with the tubes - as 'live' patches won't sell amps. Folks are going to buy what sounds good in the store. My main (older, non-tube) Line 6 amp's stage patch versions of my presets aren't super attractive at home but work great with the band.

After going through the process of redoing the EQs/gain for live use, I almost always get compliments on my tones, and folks who understand modelers are sometimes amazed.
batoivre
on 09/03/2010
Awesome,amazing sounds! at home,I Play with the Spider Jam,connected FBV express,a very really good "little" amp+ an Zoom G2 pedal.



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