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Builder Profile: Carvin

Max Mobley

The company has carved its niche in the industry as a manufacturer of US-made instruments and amps that can be had at a fraction of the cost of their counterparts.


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Lowell Kiesel started Carvin in 1946, right around the same time Leo Fender got his company going. Both were experimenting with electrifying the popular Spanish and Hawaiian guitars of the era. And while Leo Fender, Ted McCarty, Les Paul, and Adolph Rickenbacker certainly share much of the credit for bringing the electric guitar to life, Lowell Kiesel was there too—he was just doing it in his own way. Going their own way is a good way to describe Carvin, and they proudly maintain the direct-to-consumer marketing and sales approach they’ve practiced throughout the company’s history.

Over the years, Carvin gear has been used by heavyweights like Frank Zappa, Jaco Pastorius, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Steve Vai. The company has carved its niche in the industry as a manufacturer of US-made instruments and amps that can be had at a fraction of the cost of their counterparts. Their electric guitars have a unique look, an excellent reputation in terms of playability, and are priced in the same ballpark of the mass-produced, Asian models that dominate big box music stores—stores where Carvin instruments cannot be found. Before retailing through the Internet, Carvin relied almost exclusively on catalogs and mail order. As is still the case today, if someone wants to check out one of their guitars or amps before buying, a visit to one of their Southern California showrooms is the sole option.

While still holding true to their sales methodology, Carvin has embraced the digital age. One can visit their site and custom order an instrument with an assortment of details and options. And while there, gear-centric musicians can order amps, PAs, stands, mics, and pretty much everything else needed to rock out—all under the Carvin brand. Premier Guitar recently spoke with Carvin's Creative Director Richard Cruz to learn about the secrets of their success, the history of the company, and what sets them apart.


Lowell Kiesel and one of his lap steels and amps in the 1940s.
What was Lowell Kiesel's mission with Carvin?

Lowell was a musician who was also a tinkerer. He ended up building his own pickups, and eventually started building his own guitars in his woodshop. This was in the early ’40s, so it was really around the birth of the electric guitar. Lowell knew Adolph Rickenbacker and Les Paul, and I believe he knew Leo Fender. It's not like it is today. At the time, there wasn't a ton of competition—they shared their information.

Given how new the concept was, how did Kiesel make his pickups?

Back then, there were no machines designed to wind pickups, so he took the motor out of his wife's sewing machine and used it to make a winder. When his wife needed to sew, he just put the motor back in the machine. In fact, he ended up teaching his wife Agnes how to wind pickups and she was very instrumental in producing them early on. The original pickup was very similar to a PAF and the sewing machine is still in the Carvin archives today. Lowell also started making Hawaiian electric steel guitars and marketed them in Popular Mechanics. He took out tiny, little ads and began taking orders for his Hawaiian guitars and pickups.


Kiesel's original pickup winder from 1946 used a sewing machine motor and still exists in the Carvin archives.

Who were his early customers?

Lowell originally went the traditional route by trying to market his pickups to dealers. He quickly learned that being a guitar enthusiast is one thing and being a businessman is another. A lot of dealers back then would rip you off if they could. He thought, "Why do I need to go to these people and take less money when I can just market this myself?" That's how Kiesel Electronics started in 1946, though the name changed to Carvin soon after—a combination of the names of his two eldest sons Carson and Gavin. Then he started the mail-order catalog and sold amps, pickups, and steel-string Hawaiians. He was also a dealer for Fender and other brands at the time.

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Coopster
on 08/24/2011
Schnell, what I mean is, more often than not, when I've heard someone bring up Carvin at a music store, inevitably someone says that Carvin products suck but they'll happily tell you why the Marshall over in the corner rules. So, I agree that Carvin loses out on the buyer being able to demo side by side and make that call. But the retailer won't lose a minute of sleep talking down the Carvins. And I'd never compare Briggs or Collings to Carvin. That's apples and oranges. Small scale, intimate production staff versus a large factory. Carvin will stand side by side with a Fender, Ibanez, even Gibson and be just as good or better with a better price point when taking into consideration the ability to customize and the made in America promise. From that perspective, Carvin is a win. At least to me.
Schnell
on 08/18/2011
Coopster, when you say "They get a bad rap because they scare the big box stores" what exactly does that mean? I know several owners of local stores and franchisees of larger "box" type stores. Never heard anyone say anything about Carvin scaring them and rarely even hear Carvin mentioned at all. That's mainly because Carvin does not deal with regional/local stores. I think that's to their benefit for having great priced instrument, but downfall for the average person not being able to demo their product side-by-side the "other guys". That also means local stores do not push or speak about Carvin products so Carvin misses the face-to-face discussions. That means brands with a lot less quality get sold more than a Carvin. I do agree with you about certain guitar and tone snobs (they get a little too stiff shirt for me), but I have access to guitars like Collings & Briggs, and nothing Carvin makes can compare IMO. Is it worth the price difference? Eh, that's a decision only the buyer can make. Not worth it to me.
Coopster
on 08/17/2011
Carvin doesn't have any more or less QC issues than anyone else and Calling them out on it is like saying your grandma's old. Redundant. I had a bolt neck strat kit from them that just absolutely rocked until I screwed it up retrofitting a Floyd on it. Never had to tweak the neck, never had to mess with intonation, stayed in tune no matter what. And I tore it down, stripped it and rebuilt it several times. They get a bad rap because they scare the big box stores and the gear snobs want to believe you have to pay $4000 for a great guitar. It's all BS. Carvin is top quality stuff and reasonably priced for what you get, custom guitars, pro level amps and pro level sound equipment made in the USA.
JoJo
on 08/17/2011
Not a fan of Carvin. Tried a few Carvin products over the years and I didn't like the amps nor guitars. I did like a few of their pro audio mixer amps for home use. Plus I guess I'm the only one who'll admit it, but part of playing live is getting some looks & questions about your gear. That never happened with my Carvin stuff which quickly was sold away for something better.
Spanky
on 08/17/2011
To Jimmy: Since you addressed my post directly, I find it interesting that you end your statement with "Do people just ENJOY losing $?" yet you begin your statement by saying who cares about resale value? Um, resale = money. What you might save on the front end could be more than lost on the back end. I'm neither a Fender nor Gibson guy, but I'm very confident I can resale a good Fender amp for much more than a comparable Carvin. But to Fender/Gibson's defense no one forces people to buy their product. Carvin produces some really nice instruments but they kept to the marketing idea of selling direct. That hurt them even though it kept prices down; just my opinion of course but I think if people could step in all stores and play a Carvin and comare side by side it would help them tremendously in all areas (guitars, basses, amps, pro audio, etc). Plus it is more than building a fine guitar; Gibson and Fender brought historical innovations to the market that changed the whole idea of guitars from the 50's. Their name is worth a LOT of money (intangible asset). There's a lot of rock history on a good old basic Fender Strat and Gibson LP. Why people buy what they buy is a hard one to define, but just like cars, some buy Hondas & some buy BMW's. It all depends on what is priority.
Raven
on 08/17/2011
30 years of playing, on the road and in studios, 90% of everything made in the US, Europe, and Asia. Everything I use has Carvin written on it, the rest, I got rid of.
Jimmy Wisconsin
on 08/16/2011
Carvin has no real resale value? True, but who cares? Most modern Fenders aren't worth buying in the first place, so resale value is a moot point. Buy Carvin's equivalent and rest assured you'll get that Fender tone and none of the poor quality. I've seen many, many NEW Fenders (60 year old technology with no upper fret access and a horrible heel) where you could fit several picks in between them and the bodies, with action so high they were ridiculously uncomfortable to play. I have NEVER seen this on any Carvin. I buy the quality no matter WHO builds the product. Sometimes a prestigious name and quality at a fair price coincide, as in Warmoth, Fractal, Eventide, Carvin, Suhr, etc. For the life of me I cannot understand why people think the emperor (Fender/Gibson) is still wearing clothes. You can get a Carvin or custom luthier built instrument that will DEVASTATE a Fender or Gibson for the same or less dough. Do people just ENJOY losing $?
Spanky
on 08/16/2011
Carvin stuff is solid, but just doesn't get much respect in my area of the US. Rarely does anyone gloat over a Carvin guitar and the amps are good but not great. Also no resale value. To have been around that long you would have expected Carvin to be a leader that others copy. But the old Marshall's and Fender are still the tone benchmark.
donny
on 08/16/2011
I have used Carvin hardware for more that 20 yrs. Very good quality for the money. Maybe one day I'll find the perfect Holdsworth H2T on ebay. Then I'll have my Carvin. Until then my strats and teles will have to do.
Jerome
on 08/16/2011
I have 2 Carvin Legacy combo amps, 2 MTS3200 heads, 1 412 cabinet, and a 16-channel studio mixer. I Love my Carvin gear and would never part with any of it! I also teach at the Santa Ana store and the guys that work there are pretty awesome. Carvin Rocks!



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