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Builder Profile: Carvin

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The company has carved its niche in the industry as a manufacturer of US-made instruments and amps that can be had at a fraction of the cost of their counterparts.


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This mid-'70s SS75B featured solid maple construction and a Bigsby vibrato.
How did selling guitars from other companies evolve into Carvin making and selling their own guitars?

He went to Hofner and started importing parts—necks and semi-hollowbody components. Those were the first electrics Lowell made in the ’50s. Then he went into full-blown production in the ’60s when his son Mark Kiesel came onboard. By the ’70s, Mark started designing guitars, while Carson was put in charge of electronics, amp design, mixers, and pro sound.

How long did Lowell Kiesel stay with the company?

Lowell stayed involved in pickup design into the early ’70s. His sons and grandkids run the company now.

What was the genesis of the 11-pole pickups?

When you bend a string, you won't lose any signal beyond the coverage of a particular pole piece. Even in our covered pickups, we pot in wax and maintain the 11 poles. To our knowledge, Mark Kiesel was the first to design an 11-pole pickup.


Carvin's AP11 single-coil pickups showcase the company's 11-pole design. These modern pickups are designed to be identical to Carvin's original AP6 pickups from the '50s and '60s.

Who designs your products today?

Carson is the CEO and head engineer, and he oversees all production as far as electronics, amps, and pro sound. Mark is in charge of all guitar designs, including pickups, and he also designs new headstocks and bodies. Additionally, Mark oversees the quality of production and new ideas.


Lowell and Mark Kiesel in the Carvin factory in 2006. Lowell passed away on December 29, 2009 at age 94.

Is it safe to assume your custom guitar methodology is popular with your customers?

Yes, and Mark prides himself on offering the biggest available selection to the public. With some custom shops, you're paying a huge premium and waiting months and months for a guitar. Mark decided that if you want to buy a custom instrument, you're not going to pay more than you would for a factory-built model off the wall.

What is the average wait for a custom guitar ordered from your website?

Average wait is four to six weeks.

What happens if the customer changes his/her mind?

Whether pre-built or custom-ordered, customers have ten days to evaluate it from the day they receive it. A guitar can be sent back for any reason, or sent in for a modification if you want to change something.

And if a guitar comes back, what happens to it?

If a guitar comes back, it goes into inventory. It's no different than going down to a Guitar Center where dozens of people have played a particular guitar—except in our case, it's only one. If it comes back, we give it a fresh set of strings and a setup. Since we have a number of ways of selling direct to the public—including the factory showrooms in Hollywood, Santa Ana, and San Diego—it will go to one of our stores or online in the Guitars-in-Stock section of our website.

What percentage of guitars come back?

It's very small. The fact that we are not in every store, and market direct to the public—you have to know who we are. It is a bit of a challenge for us, so we have to be that much better. Not only do we have to make a guitar that is desirable, but make it so good that when you pick it up the first time, you don't want to put it down. The reasons guitars have come back recently are often due to an economic thing. The customer has bitten off more than they can chew—it’s not that they don't like the guitar.

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Joel Schlecht
on 06/30/2012
The question is, is carvin a good brand. Lots of people have said they never heard anything bad about carvin so here is an alternate view point. Keep in mind that I bought my equipment 20 years ago but if the company is still run by the same people things won't change much. I bought a complete sound system from them a 16 channel mixer, 4 monitors, 2 dual 15" 3 way speakers and all the cables and 2 amplifiers. A couple weeks after I got the board (a $1200 board in 1992) I noticed crackling on a few of the channels. I packed up the board and sent it back to carvin at my own expense (this board weighs 70+ lbs and is huge) and they said there was nothing wrong with it and sent it back to me. A couple years later, these chanels were so bad they would send loud pops through the system and peak out the channels so they were not usable. Now I have a 13 channel board. You MUST use the eq. If you turn it off it buzzes. Less than a year after getting the system I blew out the high drivers (2) on one of my speakers and one of the midranges. I thought I must have over powered the system but they were 1000 w speakers (2000 w peak) and I only had a MAXIMUM of 500W going to them. I called carvin and they said that if I blew the speakers it was my problem. After a while I figured out that the problem was that the crossovers would spontaneously stop "crossing over" sending the full range to all the speakers and thus instantly blowing them up. I figured this out playing at low levels in my home and all of a sudden the speaker would sound "wrong" and sure enough it was not crossing over. Blew up a second set of highs before I stopped using them. Having 4 monitors and out of a band for a while I used them as stereo speakers and noticed that the frequency response and SPL were quite different for each one. Not from an audiophile point of view but anyone without a hearing aid would be able to notice this. Later I bought a large diaphragm conde
Rob
on 06/18/2012
Carvin's are great guitars for the price!!!! There is nothing else to say. There necks feel and play just as good or better than most other high end boutique builders like Suhr and Anderson. The only flaw is the pickups and electronics, but that can be easily fixed.
Coopster
on 08/24/2011
Schnell, what I mean is, more often than not, when I've heard someone bring up Carvin at a music store, inevitably someone says that Carvin products suck but they'll happily tell you why the Marshall over in the corner rules. So, I agree that Carvin loses out on the buyer being able to demo side by side and make that call. But the retailer won't lose a minute of sleep talking down the Carvins. And I'd never compare Briggs or Collings to Carvin. That's apples and oranges. Small scale, intimate production staff versus a large factory. Carvin will stand side by side with a Fender, Ibanez, even Gibson and be just as good or better with a better price point when taking into consideration the ability to customize and the made in America promise. From that perspective, Carvin is a win. At least to me.
Schnell
on 08/18/2011
Coopster, when you say "They get a bad rap because they scare the big box stores" what exactly does that mean? I know several owners of local stores and franchisees of larger "box" type stores. Never heard anyone say anything about Carvin scaring them and rarely even hear Carvin mentioned at all. That's mainly because Carvin does not deal with regional/local stores. I think that's to their benefit for having great priced instrument, but downfall for the average person not being able to demo their product side-by-side the "other guys". That also means local stores do not push or speak about Carvin products so Carvin misses the face-to-face discussions. That means brands with a lot less quality get sold more than a Carvin. I do agree with you about certain guitar and tone snobs (they get a little too stiff shirt for me), but I have access to guitars like Collings & Briggs, and nothing Carvin makes can compare IMO. Is it worth the price difference? Eh, that's a decision only the buyer can make. Not worth it to me.
Coopster
on 08/17/2011
Carvin doesn't have any more or less QC issues than anyone else and Calling them out on it is like saying your grandma's old. Redundant. I had a bolt neck strat kit from them that just absolutely rocked until I screwed it up retrofitting a Floyd on it. Never had to tweak the neck, never had to mess with intonation, stayed in tune no matter what. And I tore it down, stripped it and rebuilt it several times. They get a bad rap because they scare the big box stores and the gear snobs want to believe you have to pay $4000 for a great guitar. It's all BS. Carvin is top quality stuff and reasonably priced for what you get, custom guitars, pro level amps and pro level sound equipment made in the USA.
JoJo
on 08/17/2011
Not a fan of Carvin. Tried a few Carvin products over the years and I didn't like the amps nor guitars. I did like a few of their pro audio mixer amps for home use. Plus I guess I'm the only one who'll admit it, but part of playing live is getting some looks & questions about your gear. That never happened with my Carvin stuff which quickly was sold away for something better.
Spanky
on 08/17/2011
To Jimmy: Since you addressed my post directly, I find it interesting that you end your statement with "Do people just ENJOY losing $?" yet you begin your statement by saying who cares about resale value? Um, resale = money. What you might save on the front end could be more than lost on the back end. I'm neither a Fender nor Gibson guy, but I'm very confident I can resale a good Fender amp for much more than a comparable Carvin. But to Fender/Gibson's defense no one forces people to buy their product. Carvin produces some really nice instruments but they kept to the marketing idea of selling direct. That hurt them even though it kept prices down; just my opinion of course but I think if people could step in all stores and play a Carvin and comare side by side it would help them tremendously in all areas (guitars, basses, amps, pro audio, etc). Plus it is more than building a fine guitar; Gibson and Fender brought historical innovations to the market that changed the whole idea of guitars from the 50's. Their name is worth a LOT of money (intangible asset). There's a lot of rock history on a good old basic Fender Strat and Gibson LP. Why people buy what they buy is a hard one to define, but just like cars, some buy Hondas & some buy BMW's. It all depends on what is priority.
Raven
on 08/17/2011
30 years of playing, on the road and in studios, 90% of everything made in the US, Europe, and Asia. Everything I use has Carvin written on it, the rest, I got rid of.
Jimmy Wisconsin
on 08/16/2011
Carvin has no real resale value? True, but who cares? Most modern Fenders aren't worth buying in the first place, so resale value is a moot point. Buy Carvin's equivalent and rest assured you'll get that Fender tone and none of the poor quality. I've seen many, many NEW Fenders (60 year old technology with no upper fret access and a horrible heel) where you could fit several picks in between them and the bodies, with action so high they were ridiculously uncomfortable to play. I have NEVER seen this on any Carvin. I buy the quality no matter WHO builds the product. Sometimes a prestigious name and quality at a fair price coincide, as in Warmoth, Fractal, Eventide, Carvin, Suhr, etc. For the life of me I cannot understand why people think the emperor (Fender/Gibson) is still wearing clothes. You can get a Carvin or custom luthier built instrument that will DEVASTATE a Fender or Gibson for the same or less dough. Do people just ENJOY losing $?
Spanky
on 08/16/2011
Carvin stuff is solid, but just doesn't get much respect in my area of the US. Rarely does anyone gloat over a Carvin guitar and the amps are good but not great. Also no resale value. To have been around that long you would have expected Carvin to be a leader that others copy. But the old Marshall's and Fender are still the tone benchmark.



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