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Interview: Kenny Wayne Shepherd - How He Goes

Oscar Jordan

Blues-rocker Kenny Wayne Shepherd shares details on his rig, becoming a father, and how he’ll probably never get away from the comparisons to Stevie Ray Vaughan.


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What was your approach to choosing the covers for the record?

I always like to do an artist that influenced me, somebody I respect, and choose their less obvious material. Over the course of my career I’ve been doing Hendrix’s “I Don’t Live Today,” which is not an obvious Hendrix cover. We did Peter Green’s “Oh Well,” which is a much less obvious song for Fleetwood Mac. And from Bob Dylan, we did “Everything Is Broken.” I like to go deeper into an artist’s catalogue and pick songs that I think we can do a great version of, but still stay true to the original.

Our producer Jerry Harrison came up with the idea of us covering Bessie Smith’s “Blackwater Blues.” It was kind of appropriate with all the struggles my home state of Louisiana has gone through since Katrina. It’s also good to have a nice up-tempo shuffle on there. Jerry also came up with Albert King’s “Oh, Pretty Woman,” which isn’t the first Albert King song that would come to mind for most people.

There’s some great wah work on that track.

Thanks. It’s a rockin’ track and it’s the first time I ever used a horn section on a record.

What about the Beatles cover?

“Yer Blues” was my idea. Three or four years ago I was driving down the Pacific Coast Highway near Malibu. Out here we have a station that does a Breakfast With The Beatles program every Sunday where they play nonstop Beatles music “Yer Blues” came on and I was like, “Oh man!” I’d heard that song before but it hit me differently, and I could totally hear myself doing it!

I held on to that for three or four years. When we were making the record, we cut it live and then overdubbed the guitar. I was actually talking to Ringo recently—because I played on his upcoming record—and I told him we did that song and cut it live in the studio. He told me it’s the same way they cut it, which I thought that was really cool.

Give me a basic rundown of the gear you’re using.

Because what I had going was working really well, I kept it rather simple for this album. Most of my stuff is in storage in Louisiana and since we were in California, I mostly just used what I had out here. For amps, the majority of what you hear on this record is one of my original ’64 Fender blackface Vibroverbs with the original 15" speaker. I just got a brand new Fender ’57 Tweed Twin from the custom shop and I was beside myself with how incredible it sounded right out of the box.

I also used my Fender ’65 Reissue Twin, which is from one of the original runs of the ’65 Reissue Twins, when they were doing just 250 of them. I’m also using a Dumble Overdrive Special along with another amp Dumble built for me that he calls a Tweedle Dee Deluxe. If you saw it you would think it’s a Tweed Deluxe, but it’s actually his own circuit. It sounds absolutely phenomenal.

Is this a one of a kind amp?

Yes. The clean tones are just amazing and sparkling, and the clarity is unbelievable. When you crank it up, the overtones are just incredible—you don’t even need a pedal for that amp. You’re hearing the Overdrive Special on some of the solos, the Deluxe that he built for me on a lot of the rhythm parts, and the ’57 Tweed Twin is on a ton of stuff.

The first time I saw you on the G3 Tour years ago, you were crankin’ the Marshalls. What happened?

I’ve been using Fender amps almost exclusively for some time now. When I was using the Marshalls, I was blowing them up pretty much on a regular basis. There was also a little too much high end coming from them, and even when I had the treble turned all the way down, it was still tough to get rid of the high end. I liked them at first, but I ended up struggling with them.

Over the course of my career, the staple of my live show has been the blackface Twin Reissue. I usually run two or three of those depending on the size of the venue. Over the last couple of years, I’ve been trying to figure out how to get a great tone at a lower volume. The Twins would just be screaming sometimes, and they could overpower the venue. When Fender reissued the blackface Vibroverb with the 1x15, I started using a couple of those to help dial the wattage down. The Overdrive Special that I use in the studio is likely to become a primary part of my live touring rig, depending on how things shape up for this tour.

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Jarrod England
on 05/28/2012
I think Kenny has just as much right to sound like Stevie as Stevie did. Music is input and output. You grow up listening to what you love, you end up putting out what it made you. After listening to his new album , I say that he is his own man. I think his fans agree,and THATS what its all about , the fans. I think Kenny would agree. Also good luck with fatherhood Kenny. They will be proud of their dad. Remember ...input/output ,its for kids too ;)
varaha
on 08/07/2011
It took a lot of class and maturity to answer the SRV comparison question like he did. Hat's off to Mr. Sheppard for the "homage" to SRV.
Mike K
on 08/07/2011
FloJo: I agree with you 100%, I am just trying to give the guy positive encouragement. Back in 1980 I missed seeing SRV playing 20 minutes from my house because I couldn't afford 2 tickests for $30.00. He was playing in Cankton,LA. the last legal place that allowed Cock Fighting. Can you imagine $15.00 a tickett to see the great SRV. Jimi Hendrix and SRV are my two favorites of all time, and like you say, it is a compliment to be compared to SRV. I do think KWS is coming into his own style now. Anyway no harm no foul, I just want to encourage everybody that plays, because as you know, there is more than enough naysayers out there. Peace and Play on FloJo.
Gman8thst
on 08/04/2011
Every guitar play has copied off of someone - especially guitarists they admire. What's the big deal? People should just quit the comparisons and listen to the music. There was only one SRV and there's only one KWS.
J
on 08/04/2011
KWS is fantastic. Great interview and all of the haters probably can't play 10% as good as him.
jrm
on 08/04/2011
I'll have to reserve judgement somewhat on KWS. I same him open for ZZ Top a few years back. And his banter with the crowd was totally lame. Lots of "who is this Billy Gibbons guy", He ain't nothing, type of stuff. Well I was really offended. I heard it all and I was in the front row right in front of KWS. Don't disrespect other musicians--period. And I doubt KWS will ever sell a thousandth of what Billy and the boys have done. Just play your butt of and keep the ego in check.
FloJo
on 08/04/2011
to Mike: No one is saying the SRV comments are bad; in fact it should be a huge compliment. KWS is the one who does not like it apparently. It was blatantly obvious who he copied in the beginning but maybe too much and lacked originality. KWS is a great guitarist, but I saw SRV in TX several years before he died. Sorry, I really like KWS but he can't play like SRV either. He can certainly copy him (many of us can) but SRV played riffs and commanded the stage like I had never heard before. And that was in his drunk/drug years to boot!
SRV Fan
on 08/03/2011
To be honest, when he first came out I didn't like the obvious SRV ripoff strat and look. I was biased. I still don't like the debut album. The stuff he's doing now is better IMHO. Keep wailin' that Strat.
SRV
on 08/03/2011
I have booked KWS six times to perform at the Oklahoma Blues Festival. He is a pleasure to work with and sells tickets....
Mike Kessler
on 08/03/2011
Ain't no shame in your game Kenny S. You got your own thing going. Blue on Black still is KILLER. So what if people want to make the Steive comment, if they or even his brother could play like him they would. Loved the PBS show, that was super cool. What amp and mods were you using on the closing song? You's a Bad Mammie Jammer. Long live Louisiana Musicians. Thanks.



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