July 2011 \ Tech Tips \ Ask Amp Man \ Pignose G40V Amp Mods

Pignose G40V Amp Mods

Jeff Bober

If you wish to use a line out simply to send a signal to the power section of another larger head or power amp, then a very basic line out will do the job.


Premier Guitar July 2011


The Hughes & Kettner Red Box Classic turns any amp’s speaker output into a frequency-compensated line out.
In last month’s column [“Dusting Off a Pignose G40V,” June 2011], we began digging into a Pignose G40V— an all-tube, 40-watt combo. The owner hadn’t used the amp in five years, so I outlined what he should do to make it operable and reliable. In this installment, I’ll address his question about adding a line out jack and suggest a few other possible mods.

If you own an amp that doesn’t offer a line out for direct recording or sending a signal to a house mixing board, I believe that instead of modding the amp, you’d achieve much better tonal results by using a Red Box or some similar unit that you patch between the amp output and the speaker. Because these external devices have speaker-simulation circuits, they sound much better than any basic line out. And because the G40V actually has a 1/4" output from the chassis to the internal speaker, it would be very easy to connect an external box.

However, if you wish to use a line out simply to send a signal to the power section of another larger head or power amp, then a very basic line out will do the job.

Warning: Working inside an amp is very dangerous—it can even be lethal. So if you are not familiar with the inner workings of a tube amplifier and the possible hazards involved, please have this work performed by someone who is.


Click here to download a PDF of the schematic.


Mount a 1/4" jack on the rear of the amp close enough to the speaker output jack that you’ll be able to install a resistor between the two jacks. Connect a 1.5k resistor to the tip connection of the speaker jack. Orient the jacks so that the other end of the resistor will connect to the tip connection of the new line-out jack. Before soldering this end to the line-out jack, install a 100 Ω resistor in parallel with a 0.1 μF capacitor between the tip and ground connections of the line-out jack. Now what you should have is the signal coming from the speaker output jack through a 1.5k resistor feeding the 100 Ω and 0.1 μF parallel network across the line-out jack. The two resistors serve as a voltage divider to reduce the signal level, and the capacitor serves to slightly attenuate some of the high-end content. Without it, this signal can sound pretty harsh. Feel free to experiment with different cap values to find something that matches your taste. Larger values will attenuate more high end and vice versa.

Next, looking at the schematic, I noticed a few other areas where you could personalize the amp with some simple mods. This is the fun part. I should note that these amps sport typical low-cost printed circuit boards, so you should be a bit careful when working on them. Since you’ll probably be turning the board over more than a few times, make some quick notes of where all the wires are attached, in case one decides to disconnect itself!

First, if you’d like to give this little piggy a bit more gain, locate the 510k resistor (R3) that attaches to the CW side of the volume pot. This resistor, along with the volume pot, forms a voltage divider, and as such prevents access to half of the signal level. You can either remove this resistor and replace it with a solid lead, or simply solder a short jumper wire across it. (The latter makes it easier to reverse this change.) This will allow access to the full output level of stage one, enabling more saturation of stage two.

If this turns out to sound too mushy on the low end, especially with humbucker-equipped guitars, you’ll need to reduce the amplification of the lower frequencies in the first stage. To do this, locate the 220 μF capacitor (C8) in parallel with the 2.7k resistor (R11) in the cathode of the first gain stage. Replace this cap with a substantially smaller value. I’d suggest values as small as 1 μF or 0.68 μF.

Now, if you need to bring a bit more fullness back into the amp, we can visit the next amplification stage. Increasing the value of the .047 μF cap (C9) in the cathode of this gain stage will cause it to amplify more low frequencies. Even increasing it to a value of 0.68 μF should make a significant difference. But hey, if you’d like to be a bit more daring and raise the full range gain level of this stage, try decreasing the value of the cathode resistor. Experiment with a 4.7k or possibly a 2.7k and see if you like the results.

Now, let’s move over to the tone stack. In looking at the schematic, I’d guess that the amp’s Treble control affects a bit more of the frequency range than it should. This would be due to the exceptionally large value of the treble capacitor in the tone stack. A 0.001 μF (1000 pF) capacitor (C12) here can make an amp sound a bit nasal. Try replacing this cap with a 470 pF, a typical value that works well in higher-gain amps. This should yield a better- sounding tone stack.

Last, let’s address the Presence control. In parallel with the Presence control is a 4.7k resistor. I’d suggest removing this from the circuit. Since the Presence pot is connected directly to ground on one side, this resistor is not needed as a DC path to ground, and removing it should noticeably increase the Presence control’s range. There is a better method for wiring this presence circuit that would require this resistor, but as always, I attempt to keep these modifications as basic as possible without altering the circuit board itself.

Now you’re ready to enjoy your rip-snortin’ little piggy. In closing, thanks to all the readers who sent me links to the Bassman 50 schematic I was searching for [“Rockin’ a Bassman 50,” May 2011]. I appreciate it!


Jeff Bober is one of the godfathers of the low-wattage amp revolution, co-founded and was the principal designer for Budda Amplification. Jeff recently launched EAST Amplification, and he can be reached at pgampman@gmail.com.

     

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Bruce Morgen
on 09/23/2012
Well, the "Tweed switch" mod bypassing V1B is done and the passive effects loop a la the G60VR is installed on one of my G40Vs, along with a 52K slope resistor and 270 pF treble cap in the tone stack -- they work as I expected, very nice "Fendery" tone. When I do the other G40V, I will probably drop the cathode resistor on V1A down to 1K or so and revisit the cathode resistor and cap on V1B, which is the 12AU7 half of the tube and not served very well by the oddball stock values. I intend to use both amps together via their effects loop jacks, giving me close to 80 watts of easily totable power if/when I need it. So far, I'm a pretty danged happy camper!
Bruce Morgen
on 06/22/2012
(continuing) passive effects loop, following the diagram of the G40V's very similar big brother, the G60VR. Anyway, I thought I'd share my experience of having played with my two G40Vs over the past few years -- I know the articles are old, but I felt the advice presented, while sound enough, was pretty generic and didn't really address the huge tone potential of this cool little amp.
Bruce Morgen
on 06/22/2012
This amp would benefit from many more mods, especially if you got yours because of its size and not because you're a preamp overdrive freak. It definitely needs a Fender-style series input resistor, anything from 33K to 100K will do. Next you'll want to tame its (imo) excessive preamp gain so that your overdriven tones will come from the PI and output tubes rather than the preamp stages. I've tried a number of tube substitutions and finally settled on the following: V1 = ECC832/12DW7/7247: This is a hybrid of a 12AX and a 12AU7 (one triode of each) and minimizes the ugly (imo) influence of V1B, which is very strangely biased. I used a JJ tube, a good old one might be even better. V2 = 5751 This is lower-gain 12AX7 variant, but not quite as low in gain as the 12AY7, and imo it pushes the PI stage just right in this circuit. I used a Sovtek, but again an old one might be even better. V3 = 12AT7 The 12AT7 is a superior tube as a PI because it can handle more current, which in turn gets more out of the output tubes at stage volume. These are plentiful as NOS and my experience with a current production one from EH was awful (worse than the original 12AX7, in fact!), so I used a not-very-old RCA, which really made a big difference. V4/V5 -- Lots of good choices here, I chose a NOS pair of Reflektor 6n3s, which necessitated ditching the Fender-style "bear claw" tube retainers in favor of the coil-sprung gizmos Marshall uses, which was a bit of work given the close quarters. These tubes are reputed to be great in cathode-biased amps and that seems to be the case here -- a notable improvement over the Chinese originals imo. Of course, changing the speaker is a must -- I like loud and clean myself and opted for a 1980s vintage JBL MI-10, which is just wonderful with the modded amp. My next mod will be a switch to completely bypass V1B and thus create an on-demand not-quite Tweed Bassman circuit -- when I do that, I'll probably also put in a simple p
Shuma
on 10/03/2011
Theoretically, this must be the best amp in the world in the ratio: (RMS*tone quality*features)/(cost*weight*size). In real, some compromised parts/details and one-channel design bring some minuses to the overall score. Nevertheless, if you spend some more bucks/days to replace speaker, tubes, m.b. some parts of the circuit and turn it to like-2-channel (with the quite simple procedure, because you only have to insert in a chassis additional pair of Master/Volume controls and then just toggle between these two pairs) - this combo will beat any equipment in above-mentioned aspects.
Jason
on 07/07/2011
I love these amps. I've owned a few and have done various mods to all of them. The easiest thing one can do to greatly improve the tone is replace the stock speaker. The stock speaker is very thin and sounds like icepicks in the ears. In my current pignose I replaced it with an Eminance Red Fang and it smoothed out the sound greatly.



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