November 2011 \ Vintage & Upkeep \ Trash or Treasure \ Gibson Vs. Epiphone—Are We The Ones Being Elitist?

Gibson Vs. Epiphone—Are We The Ones Being Elitist?

Zachary Fjestad

Is Gibson always considered a treasure and is an imported Epiphone always considered trash? The answer isn’t quite that simple.


Premier Guitar November 2011

A question I often receive goes something like this: “I have a Gibson Epiphone guitar and I’ve heard they’re worth a lot of money! It looks like a Les Paul and has a serial number of S9312XXXX. What’s this Gibson worth?” I’m sure I’ve broken many hearts by informing the owner that it’s worth just a few hundred bucks, because it really isn’t a Gibson. It also became apparent to me that many people don’t really know the difference between Gibson and Epiphone, or how the two fit together. Is Gibson always considered a treasure and is an imported Epiphone always considered trash? The answer isn’t quite that simple.


Gibson has been building guitars since 1894 and the name is generally synonymous with a quality, valuable, and great-playing guitar. Epiphone was another successful guitar manufacturer during the first half of the 20th century. But after the hardships of World War II, illnesses and death in the Epiphone family, and severe labor issues at the Epiphone factory in the ’50s, the company found themselves falling behind. Gibson President Ted McCarty, who had previously expressed interest in buying a portion of Epiphone, ended up purchasing the entire company in 1957.

It was decided that Epiphone would be re-established as a first-rate guitar manufacturer so that Gibson’s parent company, CMI (Chicago Musical Instruments), could offer a product comparable in every way to Gibson. This arrangement was set up by Gibson primarily to offer comparable Epiphone guitars to the music stores that were not allowed to carry the exclusive Gibson line. Though Epiphone was set up as an autonomous company in a separate part of the Gibson complex, parallel product lines were soon established, and Gibson was essentially competing with itself.

When the guitar boom of the ’60s slowed toward the end of that decade, every guitar manufacturer felt the pinch. Gibson was no different, and they were struggling to keep Epiphone alive. In 1970, Gibson decided to move all Epiphone production from the US to Japan, and since then, nearly all Epiphones have been produced in various Asian countries. It wasn’t until 1986 when Henry Juszkiewicz, David Berryman, and Gary Zebrowksi purchased Gibson that Epiphones slowly became the budget brand of Gibson.

Because Gibson generally produces expensive guitars, the company has wisely offered budget lines of instruments through the years, including the Kalamazoo, Recording King, and Cromwell brands. With the rise of imported guitars during the ’70s and ’80s, the new management team at Gibson decided to use the oft-neglected Epiphone brand for their Gibson-style budget models. By the late ’80s, Les Pauls, Flying Vs, SGs, and other Gibson models were being produced with an Epiphone logo.

Gibson has found a winning combination by using Epiphone not only for budget versions of Gibson models, but also for producing reissues of popular Epiphone models from the ’50s and ’60s. They have also used the brand for some higher-end guitars including their Elitist and Masterbilt Series. A few Epiphones are still made in the US at Gibson’s factory.

Since Epiphone became Gibson’s budget brand in 1986, you may ask what the main difference is between the two. Country of origin is certainly the number one difference. However, Gibson rarely admits that, and according to a 1998 piece of Epiphone literature called “Ask Dr. Epiphone,” one question asks, “What are the differences between an Epiphone Les Paul and a Gibson Les Paul?” It’s a good question and here’s the answer, according to Dr. Epiphone: “Our Epiphone Les Paul guitars are built 100 percent to Gibson Les Paul specifications. However, an Epiphone Les Paul is different from a Gibson Les Paul in the following main areas: In general our [Epiphone] instruments are about 1/3 to 1/2 the cost of Gibson guitars. Therefore, we have to make some adjustments to the specifications in order to be able to offer our customers this kind of value.” Dr. Epiphone goes on to say that these adjustments include fewer inlays, a thinner maple-veneer top, and the use of chrome hardware instead of gold. There is no mention of where the guitars are actually made.

Today, it’s no secret that almost every major guitar manufacturer is building in or at least offering guitars for sale that are built in Asia. With the average price-point of an electric guitar dropping to $357 in 2010, it is simply a way for guitar manufacturers to remain competitive in the 21st-century business landscape. Epiphones that are built in the image of popular Gibson models are becoming even more similar, and if not for the headstock logo, it’s difficult to differentiate the two. Try playing the instruments without looking at the headstock and let the sound and playability guide your purchasing decision.

Over the course of 100 years, the Epiphone brand has been associated with many different levels of guitars—from $200 beginner models to the archtops of the early 20th century that are worth several thousand dollars. The bottom line is that you can’t just look at the headstock to determine if your guitar is worth something or not. After all, is a Geo really considered a Chevrolet? Just because the truss rod cover says Gibson doesn’t mean it’s a Gibson.


Zachary R. Fjestad is author of Blue Book of Acoustic Guitars, Blue Book of Electric Guitars, and Blue Book of Guitar Amplifiers. For more information, visit bluebookinc.com or email Zach at guitars@bluebookinc.com.

     

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Ben
on 05/12/2013
I got a Chines Epi Les Paul Studio about 4 years ago - it sounds pretty good, but the electronics have had issues, including the jack and connections to the pickups cutting out. Boo! However I also have an Epiphone from their Prophecy range - not a total Gibson copy - with EMG 81/85s, great balance and well set up - a pleasure to play with none of the previous issues, and cheap too (they always seem to be on sale). So the LP was a bit disappointing - but it did sound good despite the workmanship. The Epiphone specific Prophecy has been faultless so far (2 years and counting).
david coile
on 05/07/2013
I have a 56 goldtop reissue epiphone.It is a great guitar plays smooth and fast .It sounds very nice not as bright and clear as a gibson but real close.I have owned this guitar without one issue.This has become my main guitar.I play it live and get so many compliments.I have owned vintage les pauls and strats I don't care what people say this guitar is a quality instrument.Great sustain p 90 's bite in brige position middle setting is warm and full neck pickup is rich and smooth.I can't find 3000 diference or 2ooo diference.I have been playing 35 plus years.This is one solid guitar.
Paul K
on 05/04/2013
This young kid that is my sons band just bought an Epi Black Beauty, it is awesome! After seeing this, I am looking into the Epiphone dot for myself. I always wanted an ES335 but can't afford it. My son has two Epiphone Casinos and a J160, all sound fantastic!
Eric
on 05/04/2013
I have a 1944 Epiphone "Broadway" that was never played. After a few repaires to stabilize the Guitar, it really shows off that vintage raw New Yorker tone that would make anyone brave enough to play an archtop proud. Not many of these trickeled out of the New York factory because of the war. 1939 to 1944 the very best Epi's made. Every dog has his day!
T. Ivison
on 04/21/2013
Epiphone offers several models of well made, good sounding, low cost acoustic guitars. I have a DR-100, and I am blown away by the quality. Any new player thinking of buying an acoustic guitar should deffently check out the epiphone line.
Phil
on 04/05/2013
I have an Epiphone Les Paul 1960 Tribute Plus Top and the quality is better than a lot of the Gibsons that I have tried. It has Gibson Classic 57 PAF pickups, switchcraft toggle and jack, Malory capacitors and Grover locking tuners. It is made of real Mahogany with a real maple top. It came with a nice hard shell case all for $599. Because it says "Epiphone" on the head stock instead of "Gibson" I saved $2,000. Don't be a snob and a poser about buying a guitar. A high end Epiphone is a great guitar. If you are just trying to impress people by paying too much for your gear then you are missing the point of playing the guitar in the first place.
Dan
on 04/04/2013
i bought an epiphone tribute plus and it sucked, the quality control is terrible.
Tony
on 03/24/2013
I have an Epiphone G-400 Deluxe (vintage sunburst) manufactured in 2001 that I bought off the local site. I love this guitar. It sounds awesome and feels good with no neck dive. It looks like a dream. I replaced the neck pu with a humbucker sized P-90. Now I use the neck pickup!!!!! For the price paid I have an awesome guitar that floats my boat through 50 screamin tube watts. I have a guitar that I enjoy playing, and I baby it as if it were a $2,000 model. I can mod it and not ruin the value. I also have an IBJL Casino. If it was good enough for the Beatles, I think I can live with it. I think if you find a guitar that you love playing, it is priceless. Epiphones are just like Gibsons, go find one you like and love playing it!!!!!!!!!
Andrew Fitzgeral
on 03/22/2013
I have an epiphone les paul junior and a synsonics strat copy the epiphone sounds great the synsonics has lots of fret buzz and rattles it was made in china and never works with an amp the les paul jr. is 20 times better than a gibson if modified correctly it still sounds as good as when it came out of the box. but its opinion likecoen de moor said.
Sly 68
on 02/22/2013
To play or not to play, that is the question...lol Most player I know who will defend the "legendary" Les Paul blah blah blah are just not aware that Gibson's technology is 70 years old! Factories in Asia are building Iphones and Ipads. I've been playing for over 30 years, I own a 1960 SG and a 1968 Strat, an American made B.C. Rich, I have had a bunch of great guitars through the years and I must say that today's quality in the $400-600 in F-ing unbelievable. Gibson is a brand and their product are good but they are not worth 2-3-4-$5K that's ridiculous. As much as "vintage" was out in the 80's and 90' Now the market is all about re-issues: Les Paul, Rickenbaker, Ampeg SVT, Stratocaster, Martin accoustic etc.



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