October 2011 \ Features \ Artist Interview \ Dream Theater: Drama Kings

Dream Theater: Drama Kings

Joe Charupakorn

Dream Theater’s twin shred deities—guitarist John Petrucci and bassist John Myung—discuss the hoopla over founding drummer Mike Portnoy’s departure, their tendon-thrashing hand workouts, and the recording of their latest epic, A Dramatic Turn of Events.


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Dream Theater (left to right): Mike Mangini, Petrucci, James LaBrie, Myung,
and Jordan Rudess. Photo by Michael Lavine

Like where they’re hearing the accents in, say, an asymmetrical phrase?

Myung:
Yeah. Like, would you think of 9/8 as 6/8 then 3/8 or 3/8 then 6/8? It’s a total feel thing, but it’s sort of like, “Are we on the same page, musically?”

Tell us about the writing sessions for the new album.

Myung: It reminded me of the early days, when it was just me sitting in front of John and Jordan [Rudess, keyboards] and saying, “I’ll play this part, you play this part, and we’ll record it.” A lot of the early stuff was stuff I would first work on with John and Kevin [Moore, original DT keyboardist] and then we would bring it to the band. But once our [1992] album, Images and Words, took off and went gold, we were just like this machine. We started touring and writing and doing everything together.

So, in some ways, this was like we were back to the beginning. It was a combination of writing as a group and not as a group. The sessions were really mellow and laidback. We were all playing at acoustic volumes, which made the dynamics of the communication different. It felt less on the go and more meditative.

Petrucci: I had stuff that I worked on ahead of time—demos, songs, and my riff library—but, ultimately, John, Jordan, and I went into the studio and wrote together. As we were writing, we demoed it all. I programmed the drums using Superior Drummer in Logic. After we finished the songs, we sent them to Mike Mangini. About two-and-a-half months later, when we came to record, he had templates of all the songs—all the tempo maps and markers. It’s pretty incredible to watch and record somebody like that. He came in and brought everything to life. It’s a lesson for all professional musicians out there—not only about being incredibly skilled and gifted, but also about being prepared.

How do you balance maintaining and/or furthering your prodigious technique while working on the demanding live set and committing it to memory?

Petrucci: Things go in stages. Right now, my focus is on the fact that I know I have to tour, and the first show is September 24, so I have to be able to play such and such songs. There’s a whole process of learning them—isolating the guitars and going back and learning what I played—then memorizing it and practicing the difficult parts. It’s not the time to be searching out and practicing new things: The focus is the short-term goal. Once I get comfortable and I’m on the road, or when the tour cycle is done and I’m home, then I can take a deep breath and start asking questions again, start learning new things.

Myung: I’ll know what the set is going to be at least a month prior to a tour. Then I put myself on a schedule where I at least run through every song once a day, going through the set for two or three hours. Some of the songs are really long, so it can take over ten minutes to get through it once. Even if you’ve played it for an hour, you’ve only gotten through it five times or so. Our set is like two hours, and we’ll have a master set with extra songs in it, so maybe there will be—from start to finish—like, three hours of material to run through. Then, slowly it starts to come together.

Apart from just running through the set, I also have to get my hands to do what I want them to do, which is a whole other thing where I just warm up. I have a certain procedure that I do with my hands before I feel totally dialed in. It’s two or three hours of subtle movements. And it’s not anything that I learned from a book, it’s just playing.

Are you able to find time to do this every day?

Myung: It’s a part of my life now, so I need to do it. And before every show I have to do it.

You run through the whole two-hour routine before every show?

Myung: Yep. Absolutely. Usually, we’ll drive overnight on a bus, check into a hotel, and soundcheck will be sometime after 4 o’clock, and then we’re usually on at 9. Between soundcheck and the actual showtime—as soon as soundcheck is over—I disappear and find a room, then immediately start my sequence. It really has to be that way, because you can’t give it your all and feel good about what you’re doing if your hands, if the physical side of things isn’t ready. You have to condition yourself to be able to play the way you want to play.

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YahooSerious
on 10/13/2011
A7X more viable than DT? Seriously? This appears to be the most twisted and incorrect interpretation of the events that unfolded.
Brad
on 10/10/2011
Petrucci has the soul of a ceramic dish...technical brilliance but no taste. the singer is over the top as is the music...and I love RUSH!!! they do prog right. Good for Portnoy....DT has been borish since their debut. Cant wait to hear Portnoy and John Sykes play!!!!
Tony
on 10/10/2011
Jeez guys, don't make stuff up about why Mike left. It had nothing to do with AX7. He NEVER intended to be a permanent member of AX7. Get your facts straight.
arra
on 10/09/2011
dream theater is DREAM THEATER..not w/o portnoy..not w/o petrucci..not w/o myung..and not w/o rudess... 4 of these music gods MADE the BAND.. changes can continue the reign.but NOT the LEGACY that the original Dream theater has created.
Ian Perge
on 10/01/2011
As a fan since hearing "Metropolis" on Long Island's local radio Metal Show in '92 but having moved away since "Train Of Thought", the new album has done what I once thought could never happen... brought me *back* into the DT camp. Replacing blatant attempts at copying younger, popular bands such as Muse and the decedents of the Nu-Metal scene with Portnoy's attempts at "Metal Vocalizations" and horrific lyrics, generic "Guitar Lead"/"Keyboard Lead"/"Unison & Harmony Leads" sections in far too many songs, and downright sonically bad Guitar & Drum-heavy mixes that hardly left room for the other members with what sounds like studied writing sessions that removed the vast majority of the above. Add a new drummer who is at the top of his game and yet still practices compared to one who said many times that "[he didn't] play at home after a tour was done" and had stopped being the "young gun" of the '90s *years* ago has made ADTOE one of the Albums Of The Year in a year of great albums, and easily Dream Theater's best release since "Scenes From A Memory"/"6 Degrees Of Inner Turbulence". Portnoy's terrible bluff at "Band Poker" as turned into the best thing to happen to his former band since they took away Jordan Rudess' "Clown Shoes" Ragtime Piano patch for this latest album! ;-)
John
on 09/30/2011
While loving what MP did and was for the band - to which I'll be forever loyal - he wanted to take 5 (five) years off - not 1 - and I felt there was something way off when I met them in Rome back in 09 - Mike was not happy being there and you could read it a mile away...so much that I wasn't even sure if I should say hi - and he took off. The new album is great as always but that doest mean - for me - that their past is to be forgotten - it's what made them who they are today. In the end he needed to do what he felt best
Scott
on 09/29/2011
Dramatic Turn of Events is the best DT album in years. JP you rock!
Jeff
on 09/29/2011
Time for honesty. Loved Portnoy's drumming, but I like the overall "feel" better now. There is a slightly "sweeter" sound now. As a guitar player, I am amazed by JP. I look forward to seeing the video of the drummer search. My all-time favorite DT song is "The Spirit Carries On".
AX7 fan
on 09/29/2011
AX7 lol
HUNTER
on 09/29/2011
Sorry i love DT.. but the last couple efforts were kinda boring.. IMHO. If Portnoy wanted to take a break and do something different for a year.. I respect that.. And think the other guys just wanted to continue the cycle (write-record-tour-repeat) that ends up watering down most bands.. Maybe its good for everyone.. If DT was in such a hurry to keep said pace, as though "not not to be forgotten" and couldnt give Mike the space to do something else.. then it its what it is. There is no money in records.. Artists have to tour to make money.. At a certian point its not about money.. its about passion. If you dont feel it, you dont feel it.



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