Captain Kirk, guitarist for
the Roots, says he likes to
wear Puma sneakers while
performing because they
make it easy to dial in killer
effects. Photo by Sol Allen
The Roots has a new bassist, Mark
Kelley, who has been onboard a few
months now. As far as writing guitar
and bass parts, what’s the dynamic like
between you two?
A large part of what the Roots is now
is being a house band for Fallon. The
time we spend onstage together, where
the audience pays to see the act the
Roots and the Roots alone, that’s sort
of the past. So when we do a show
where people are paying to see the
Roots only, that’s a very special evening.
But we’re writing all the time—every
time we go to commercial, that’s an
original composition.
What are those writing sessions like?
Well, for instance, right now Questlove
is sick, so he’s out from the Fallon show
for a week. So Frank Knuckles, our percussionist,
is writing the set. It’s a very
well-oiled machine, as far as coming up
with stuff at the drop of a hat. Because
the only intent is to take us in and out
of a commercial, we don’t feel like we
have to change the world with every
piece of music we write. But because that
pressure is lifted, you can come up with
some really cool stuff—because we all
want to make stuff that we enjoy playing.
By virtue of that, sometimes really
good stuff happens, and sometimes that
stuff also finds its way onto albums.
What’s it like to jam with so many
great musicians?
It’s fun. Work can definitely be a box of
chocolates. Yesterday, we were the backing
band for Hunter Hayes, a fantastic
guitarist/songwriter/multi-instrumentalist
who’s, like, 20 years old and a formidable
player. I only heard about him through the
show. I went on YouTube to check him out
and saw that he’s already played the Grand
Ole Opry, and he’s got a big hit that we
backed him on yesterday. But I only found
out about that from being in the Roots and
being on Jimmy Fallon. That sort of scenario
happens pretty regularly. You get to see
people’s fingers up close— all these people
like John McLaughlin. It really enriches
your musical experience.
Percussionist
Frank Knuckles
and MC Black
Thought wax
while Captain
Kirk looks on.
Photo by
Tim Fortner
What are some of your favorite performances
so far?
Springsteen, definitely. I get chills just
thinking about that. Playing “Late in the
Evening” with Paul Simon was magical.
We played with Tom Jones. We’ve played
with Jimmy Buffett, Todd Rundgren, Elvis
Costello. All of those had an element of
magic to them.
The Captain
makes his custom
Les Paul sing at
the Fox Theatre in
St. Louis. Photo
by Todd Owyoung
Which situations were the most surprising
or difficult?
We played a piece with Mos Def called
“Casa Bey” that was more complex than
what you would expect from a hip-hop
artist. When we collaborate with hiphop
artists, they tend to be repetitive,
loop-based things. But when we did this
with Mos Def, it was sort of a The Rite of
Spring-like arrangement. There were a lot
of parts, and we’re not reading when we’re
up there [on air], so you have to do a lot
of memorization. It’s a best-case scenario
to play things many times to get it in your
head and in your fingers, but sometimes
you don’t have that opportunity. So it
requires a lot of focus.
Let’s talk about your weapons of choice a
little bit.
With the Roots, I use Mesa/Boogie amplifiers.
They’re just very versatile, sort of like a
Swiss Army knife, but without getting into
the digital world—which I’m not opposed
to, but I just haven’t gotten around to it yet.
I like the feel of tubes, and I’ve just found
a situation that works for me and allows
me to worry about other things. My setup
is extremely basic: I use a Dunlop Jimi
Hendrix Wah, an Ibanez Tube Screamer, a
Line 6 DL4 Delay Modeler, and a Maxon
Phase Tone.
Yes, there is stomping in hip-hop. Douglas
puts his foot down at the 2011 Montreal
Jazz Fest. Photo by Rebecca Dirks
When I’m not playing with the Roots, I
do a much more guitar-centric thing. I have
a band called Hundred Watt Heart, and I
use Divided by 13 amps with that. I really
like the feel of just using one amp. With
the Roots, I’m required to play clean a lot
of the time, so I’ll use different channels.
I’ll have my cabinets turned around, too,
because a loud guitar is not favorable in a
hip-hop band.
Although you guys have done a
“Machine Gun” cover that was pretty
guitar-intensive.
It totally has its moments in the show,
don’t get me wrong, but it’s not like going
to see the Mars Volta. That’s way more of
a guitar experience, where the guitar takes
up a lot more real estate in the bed of the
music. Because of that, I definitely have a
need to play music on my own that’s more
guitar-centric.