
Bruce slides way up high on his signature Warwick
Rio Rosewood Thumb NT during a Spectrum
Road jam in early 2011 at Yoshi’s Jazz Club in
Oakland. Photo by Jerome Brunet
The two of you also played together back
in 2001 with the Cuicoland Express.
Bruce: Vernon actually played on a record
of mine called A Question of Time around
1990. It was right around the time Living
Colour really hit when he came in and
played on a track, and I just fell in love with
his playing. Since then, whenever I’ve had a
chance to play with him, I’ve gone for it.
Reid: That happened during a time when
I was meeting a lot of my heroes—a crazy,
wonderful time in my life where I was playing
with Garland Jeffreys and doing stuff
with Santana. Jack reached out to me, and
he’s continued to be very supportive of me.
I’ve been very fortunate to play on a couple
of his solo projects.
What would you say are each other’s
greatest strengths?
Reid: Jack brings an extraordinary passion
to things, and he’s able to access the entire
stylistic range of the bass, because he’s just
so incredibly knowledgeable. I love his take
on “There Comes a Time.” The interplay
between how he sings that and plays the
bass, and the way that allows space to open
up for my playing is just so lyrical.
He also has a great ability to reharmonize
things and to create bass motion that
emerges as a distinct voice. In fact, the key
thing I always learn from my heroes—and
this certainly applies to Jack—is to stay
away from the “licks mentality,” where
it’s all about this lick and that lick, as if a
player is basically the sum of his licks.
I really prefer to think in terms of
the voice of these great players. With
the Lifetime stuff, I’ve found it useful to
think about playing things similar to the
original guys, but not the same things. The
reason I got into guitar to begin with was
that Carlos Santana’s guitar sounded like
a totally individual voice to me. It wasn’t
a collection of scales and licks—it had a
singularity, if you will. And sure, that singularity,
as with all players, can be broken
down into its component parts—certain
tonalities and techniques.
The key thing as a player is to transcend
the influence in order to have a voice. It’s
easy—and, I think, especially easy for guitarists—
to get caught up in the poetry of
someone else, and not find the poetry in
themselves. I’d like to think that Jack reached
out to me because he heard the poetry in
my playing. And that makes me feel good.
I mean, this is a guy who’s played with
Clapton, Robin Trower, and Gary Moore!
Bruce: Vernon’s chops are such that he
plays so much and so fast that you have
to kind of slow it down in order to really
hear it properly. I think he plays so great
that people aren’t really aware of what he’s
doing. A lot of people don’t really hear what
he’s doing. It’s like listening to a songbird
or something—you have to slow it down
because it’s going about 40 times faster than
anything human, you know? He’s definitely
not human, but he’s great!

Reid busts out his inimitably
catonic licks on his MIDI-outfitted
signature Parker. Photo by Pino Fama
Have there been any instances where you
guys surprised each other, musically?
Reid: Man, Jack just swings really hard. I
mean, in “Blues for Tillman”—one of the
originals on the record—he swings the doors
off! He’s got that amazing, behind-the-beat
swing. But the biggest surprise for me was
when he first sang in Scottish Gaelic on the
traditional song “An t-Eilean Muileach.” I
mean, that was a jaw-dropping and indelible
moment. I was totally gobsmacked.
Bruce: The very first time I played with
Vernon, we did a song of mine called “Life
and Earth,” and he was playing these bebop
lines on this very rock song. I knew then he
was the guy for me [laughs].
You come from entirely different musical
generations. Was it hard to bridge that gap?
Bruce: I don’t think there are any real differences
in generations of music. If your goals
are the same, it’s got nothing to do with age
or anything like that. Great music is timeless,
and the same thing applies to musicians.
Jack Bruce's Gear
Basses
Warwick Jack Bruce Rio Rosewood
Thumb NT, Warwick Jack
Bruce JB3 Survivor, Gibson EB-1
Amps
Hartke HA3500C head, Hartke
410XL and 115XL cabinets
Strings
SIT Rock Brights Nickel Medium
sets (.050–.105)
Vernon Reid's Gear
Guitars
Parker DF824VR Vernon Reid
Signature MaxxFly, ’58 Gibson ES-345,
’90s Hamer Custom Chaparral,
’90s PRS McCarty
Amps
Mesa/Boogie 100-watt Dual Rectifier,
Randall MTS Series RM100M (including
Treadplate, Kirk Hammett KH3, and
Blackface modules), Fender Twin
Reverb, Randall RV412 cabs
Effects
Roland VG-99 V-Guitar System and
FC-300 MIDI Foot Controller, Eventide
PitchFactor, Eventide ModFactor,
Strymon El Capistan, Schumann
Electronics PLL analog square-wave
harmonizer, Moog MoogerFooger
MF-107 FreqBox and EP-2 Expression
Pedal, Fractal Audio Axe-Fx Ultra with
MFC-101 MIDI Foot Controller, Z.Vex
Fuzz Factory, Z.Vex Lo-Fi Loop Junky,
Pefftronics SB-101 Super Rand-
O-Matic, Pigtronix Echolution
Strings, Picks, and Accessories
D’Addario EXP115 (.011 to .049),
Dunlop JD JazzTone 205 and 208,
Dunlop TeckPick Aluminum, Surfpicks,
Brossard custom picks
Is there any track on the record that was
particularly important for each of you to
be included on the album?
Bruce: For me, it was “Vuelta Abajo,”
which I feel was a really great composition
of Tony’s. It was very important for me
to get that on there because I was actually
present at the beginning. When I joined
Tony’s band, “Vuelta Abajo” was the first
thing we recorded. Tony didn’t write all the
tunes on the record, but they’re all pretty
important. There’s “Coming Back Home”
by Jan Hammer, and a couple of John
McLaughlin tunes, as well as a couple of
tunes that come from this band, Spectrum
Road—it’s a bit of a mixture.
Reid: I really wanted to do “Coming
Back Home”—it’s one of my favorite
Jan Hammer pieces. Tony played it on
his 1978 solo album The Joy of Flying
with George Benson, and it’s a delightful
melody. It was really daunting to take on.
There’s a lot of influence from George
Benson on the first half, with the whole
clean-tone thing, but after that I felt, “I
really have to make this thing my own.”
It’s one of my favorite moments on the
whole record.
With the level of improvisation happening
when the group is playing live, how
comfortable are you going into each show?
Bruce: That’s the exciting thing, because
we quite often don’t know what’s going to
happen. And, obviously, with improvisation,
anything can happen—because everybody’s
the leader and nobody’s the leader,
y’know? I find that very exciting, and I
believe audiences do nowadays, too. There
was a period when that wasn’t happening,
but I think people like it again.
Reid: In terms of improvising, we play live
much like the record, and follow a certain
order for the solos. And yes, we do follow
much the same script that the original
tunes dictate. Sure, there’s always some
risk involved with the totally improvised
pieces—it can work, or it can totally not
work. But that can happen with any piece
of music, even one that’s composed to the
nines. Every piece of music ultimately faces
the same issues in performance.
I also find it really gratifying that people
are becoming interested in Tony again. He
was an artist who I feel was really misunderstood
in a lot of ways. When I hear a
band like Medeski Martin & Wood or the
Mars Volta, which are totally different from
each other, I hear a real connection to the
impulse that the Lifetime had. By virtue of
the Bonnaroo Festival—which we’re playing
this summer—and the jam-band culture
that the Grateful Dead spawned, this style
of music is possibly more accepted now
than it was then.