Hello Jeff,
Thanks for all the useful information each
month. I’m hoping you may have some insight
that would help me. I have Crate V33 2x12
combo—a 33-watt, class A amp running EL84
power tubes. It’s not a bad little amp—especially
considering the deal I got on it. But I am looking
to turn it into a more powerful little tone
machine. I have swapped the preamp tubes
from the three stock 12AX7s that came in it to
a 5751 in the V1 position, an EF86 in V2, and
a 12AU7 in V3. I also pulled two of the EL84
power tubes, so it is running at 18 watts. This
allows me to drive the power section harder
and that contributes more to the tone.
Next I plan to change the stock speakers to
a couple of Warehouse Guitar Speaker models.
The amp is currently looking for an 8 Ω
load. Would you suggest I get two 8 Ω models
and run them in series in order to run the
power section even harder? I’m also wondering
if you could give me a few mods to make
the tone stack more effective. In particular,
there doesn’t seem to be much response coming
from the mid control. I am looking to
enhance the “British” feel, which this amp
already has.
Thanks for the suggestions.
—Bryan
Hi Bryan,
Thanks for your question. I hear
that the V33 is a cool amp that
many players have modified over
the years, but let’s address your
particular changes and questions.
I see you have begun swapping
preamp tubes. This is a
good place to start to make
changes to the gain structure
and tonal characteristics of most
amps. You mentioned installing
a 5751 in the V1 position
in place of the stock 12AX7.
This is a good way to lower the
gain a bit in the front end and
would generally allow the amp
to clean up better when a guitar
with lower output pickups
is used—or better yet, when
the guitar’s volume control is
turned down. You can achieve
so much sonically by subtly
adjusting a guitar’s volume
control, yet so few players take
advantage of this.
If you feel the need to
lower the gain even more,
try a 12AT7. There are also
other fun tubes to try, such as
the ECC832 and ECC823,
which are essentially one half
of a 12AX7 with the other half
being equivalent to a 12AU7.
The 832 and 823 are actually
mirror models of each other,
so feel free to try each and see
if either achieves a result better
than the 5751 or 12AT7.
As far as your V2 selection
of an EF86, I’m sorry but this
tube will simply not function in
this amp. The stock tube for this
position is a 12AX7, which is a
dual triode. An EF86 is a pentode
style tube and has a completely
different pin out configuration
that will simply not work
if installed in this socket. Besides
that, even if you were to rewire
the socket to accept this style
tube (which is not an easy task
in an amp with circuit board-mounted
sockets), you would
be losing an entire gain stage,
since the triode has two but the
pentode only has one. This tube
serves as a sort of mixer for the
clean and dirty channels, as well
as a tone stack driver. While
these functions could possibly
be accomplished by one gain
stage with some modification,
I would recommend against it.
If you wish to experiment with
alternate tubes in this position,
a 12AT7, 12AU7, ECC832, or
823 would work.
With respect to the V3 position,
you mentioned you installed
a 12AU7. That tube will certainly
function in this position, but
being it is the lowest gain of all
styles of tubes that will work here,
you will have the most reduced
signal level driving the output
stage. This would translate into
more signal level required from
prior gain stages in order to drive
the output tubes to the same
level. Not a bad thing at all, but
just know that it definitely changes
the feel and touch sensitivity
of the amp. This, of course, is all
personal taste, so experiment with
a 12AX7, 12AT7, and 12AU7
in this position, but steer clear
of the ECC832 and 823 here.
The two different triode sections
would substantially unbalance the
output stage making for an asymmetrical
output, which is not very
good for quality clean tones.
Moving on to your output
stage and speakers, you mention
you’ve removed two of the
EL84 output tubes so the amp
would be running at 18 watts.
First, I hope you have removed
the correct tubes, which would
be one of the tubes from the left
pair and one from the right pair.
Removing two from only one
side would result in no load on
one half of the output transformer—
a condition I’d advise against.
Also, with a pair of output
tubes properly removed from
the amp, you have now changed
its output impedance. Since
you have in essence halved the
load on the primary of the
output transformer, the secondary
of the transformer expects
to have half the load on it for
everything to be balanced.
This means that your output
impedance is now theoretically
16 Ω, so I would recommend
installing two 8 Ω speakers
wired in series for the correct
16 Ω load.
Now let’s finish up with your
tone stack question. Looking at
the schematic, I see there are a
few components at the bottom
of the tone stack that are not
very typical. These components
serve to lift the tone stack from
ground, rendering it less useful.
I assume the FET and associated
.001 μF capacitor and 68.1k
resistor are used in a “boost”
function, which in the boost state
would partially lift the tone stack
from ground, thereby increasing
gain while making the tone
controls less functional. This is
not unusual. What is unusual is
that the remaining two components—
the .047 μF capacitor and
220k resistor—serve to keep the
stack lifted from a direct ground
connection during normal operation.
This may be causing the
tone controls to be less active.
I would try replacing the
220k resistor with a jumper
wire, or if possible, simply
installing a jumper wire across
the resistor. This would give the
tone stack a proper ground reference,
hopefully returning some
additional functionality to the
controls. As far as enhancing the
“British” sound of the amp, the
capacitor values in the tone stack
are pretty typical British values,
so no change needed here. Just
FYI, you will lose some gain as
a tradeoff. If this proves to be
too much of a loss, try going
back to a higher-gain tube in the
V2 position, if you’ve already
installed a lower-gain tube.
Hope your Crate crushes!
Jeff Bober is one of
the godfathers of the
low-wattage amp revolution,
co-founded and was
the principal designer for
Budda Amplification. Jeff recently launched EAST
Amplification, and he can be reached at
pgampman@gmail.com.