
LEFT: Paul Lacques wailing onstage with his 1953 Fender lap steel. RIGHT: Marcus Watkins’ main Spy guitar is a ’62 Strat reissue from 1986. Photos by Greg Allen
“Sometimes the audience at our
shows is nearly half musicians,”
laughs Double Naught Spy Car
guitarist and lap-steel player
Paul Lacques. “I mean, when
someone starts laughing at
something you snuck into the
middle of a phrase, you know
that’s gotta be a guitar player!”
The all-instrumental L.A.
quartet’s exceptional new
album, Western Violence, boasts
amusing titles like “Halliburton
Snowboard,” “Two Bones from
Skeletor,” and the instant classic
“Journey to the Center of
Guitar Center”—a rollicking
cacophony of spaghetti
Western/surfabilly/spy-movie
sounds that the band describes
as “an interpretation of a
Saturday afternoon noodle-fest at
the Sherman Oaks Guitar Center,
punctuated by tasteless simultaneous
wanking by our guitarists.”
Double Naught’s jazz-noir artrock
certainly contains enough
harmonic in-jokes and snippets
of old TV themes and “cheesy
listening” references to keep any
guitar nerd chuckling for hours.
But that hardly diminishes (pun
intended!) the seriousness of
Lacques and co-guitarist Marcus
Watkins’ inventive, richly seasoned
playing and the coolness
of their compositions—which
evoke the angular licks and
interplay of bands like Television,
Zappa, Captain Beefheart, and
King Crimson alongside nods
to Ennio Morricone and Dick
Dale. The two well-traveled guitarists
have done stints with 311,
the Dust Brothers, Bo Diddley
and many more. These Spy Cars
get around.

Double Naught Spy Car (left to right): Lacques, drummer Joe Berardi, bassist Marc Doten, and Watkins, who’s playing a Tele through a Top Hat combo.
Photo by Greg Allen
Despite all those influences,
perhaps the biggest throughline
in the Double Naught
sound is the mighty harmonic
minor scale, which suffuses their
tunes with its spirit of Eastern
European intrigue. But Lacques’
and Watkins’ approaches to
harmonic minor—essentially a
natural minor scale with a raised
seventh degree—come from very
different perspectives.
“I’m a pretty self-taught,
seat-of-your-pants player,” says
Lacques, “and I got into it from
playing with a group called the
Aman Folk Ensemble, where I
had to learn lots of Turkish and
Eastern European material. But
Marcus comes to it more from
Gypsy jazz and from a background
in theory and reading.
But yeah, it’s really at the core
of our music. I mean, we’ll lead
with a major seventh over a
minor chord!”
Another unifying principle
is what Watkins calls the band’s
“uncensored” creative process.
“We spend a lot of time saying
‘Wouldn’t it be great if … ’ and
since there’s no one telling us
‘No, you can’t,’ we do!”
Lacques—a righteous lapsteel
and Telecaster player with
a background in classic country,
Afro-pop, and roots rock—agrees.
“The spirit is that there are no
rules, so you can be as atonal and
avant-garde as you like.”
Watkins’ ’62 Strat reissue, Lacques’ ’53 Fender lap steel, and Watkins’
Johnson resonator.
According to Lacques,
Double Naught Spy Car came
to life in the mid ’90s under
the influence of Chris Isaak
guitarist Jimmy Wilsey, whose
cavernous Fender clean tones
and dreamy articulation cast a
powerful neo-surf spell.
“It was in that approach to
using the harmonic minor scale
and the blues scale—with that
gorgeous tone and reverb—
and I thought, ‘I want to play
like that.’” That set Lacques
off into using Fender Super
Reverb amps (though he uses a
1969 Fender Princeton Reverb
with Double Naught), running
them clean with ample
spring reverb—a pretty big
change for a guy whose “gurus”
include country pickers like
James Burton, Albert Lee, and
Clarence White.
“Clarence White is amazing
because he pushed both acoustic
bluegrass and electric country guitar
so far forward,” Lacques notes.
“It’s unusual to be that influential
on both acoustic and electric
music.” Lacques studied White’s
trademark half- and wholestep
bends in detail, though he
attempted to approximate them
on his ’68 Fender Telecaster without
the aid of a B-Bender.
Paul Lacques' Gear
Guitars
1968 Fender Tele, 1953 Fender lap steel,
1966 Fender Tele (left-handed), Beard Guitars Mike
Auldridge resonator, 1966 Martin D-18
Amps
1969 Fender Princeton Reverb
Effects
Z.Vex Box of Rock, Dunlop Cry Baby wah, Ernie
Ball VP Jr. volume pedal, MXR Carbon Copy
Strings, Picks, and Accessories
D’Addario EXL 110s, metal fingerpicks,
plastic thumbpick
Marcus Watkins’ Gear
Guitars
1986 Fender ’62 Strat reissue, 2002 Fender ’52 Tele
reissue, Schecter TSH-1, 2005 Gibson Les Paul
Standard, Johnson resonator
Amps
Matchless Spitfire 2x10 combo
Effects
Xotic Effects RC Booster, Love Pedal Kalamazoo,
Voodoo Lab Tremolo, Electro-Harmonix Small Stone
Nano, BBE Two Timer, Malekko Chicklet, Way Huge
Swollen Pickle, Electro-Harmonix Holy Grail Reverb
Strings, Picks, and Accessories
D’Addario EXL 115s, Dunlop Ultex 1.14 mm picks,
Pedaltrain JR pedalboard, George L’s cables, Boss
TU-3 tuner
Ironically, Lacques’ technique
on the lap steel comes
more from trying to mimic the
Nigerian Afro-pop sounds of
King Sunny Ade than anything
out of Nashville or the California
country scene. He tunes his
1953 Fender lap steel to A–C–D
G#–B–D (low to high), what he
describes as a “D13 tuning,” one
inspired by Hawaiian guitarist
Sol Hoopii. “It’s not like those
[resonator] tunings where you’ve
got this big, fat major chord,”
says Lacques. “But it’s really good
at minor chords and 13 chords,
and just puts all these dense jazz
voicings at your fingertips. It’s a
bit tricky to learn, but it’s a rich
palette.” As a nod to the pickand-
fingers technique of country,
Lacques wears metal fingerpicks
on his middle and ring fingers,
and a plastic one on his thumb,
when playing steel.
Watkins, who cut his teeth
as a precocious teenager playing
Randy Travis and ZZ
Top in the bars of Northern
California’s San Joaquin Valley,
also plays Teles, but is more
likely to be seen with his 1985
Fender ’62 Stratocaster reissue,
which is loaded with DiMarzio
Virtual Vintage pickups and
plugged into a Matchless
Spitfire combo. “Perhaps [the
DiMarzios] aren’t the purest
Strat sound, in one sense,
but I gotta say, when you’re
playing in all these different
clubs, with all their different
wiring and grounding issues,
it’s awful nice to show up and
know you aren’t going to get
any buzz at all from your guitar—
benefits of a humbucker,
sound of a Strat.”
As demonstrated by their
choice of amps, both players
find low-wattage amps key to
their tones. “Low stage volume
is the better way to go,” says
Lacques. “When I first switched
from my old ’55 Deluxe to
the Princeton, I didn’t think
it would be loud enough, but
after a few gigs I got used to
it, and now I can’t imagine
going back to a bigger amp.”
He says another secret is to
not use monitors. “As soon as
you start using the big drum
wedge in the drummer’s face,
you’re dead—because that thing
floods the stage with extraneous
sound. You’re doubling the
onstage volume and getting all
sorts of phasing and noise. The
house guy can make you sound
huge if he wants, but onstage
it’s like you’re playing in your
living room.”
One assumes that is worlds
better than what it sounds like
in the middle of Guitar Center
on a Saturday afternoon in
Sherman Oaks.