Motorcycles and laser beams introduce a fuzzed-out mid-tempo riff to kick off the technicolor musical epic “Home Thru Hell,” the first track on Deap Lips, the new collaborative project from Deap Vally and the Flaming Lips. The song’s lyrics have fantastical tendencies alluding to classic prog-rock fare such as vultures and hypnotizer’s spells, while lines like “Riding along through the deep valley/Where the dragons of madness roam” and “Taking all my wisdom/From the flaming lips of youth” creatively shout out the band names of the two groups involved in this super-collab. “Home Thru Hell” acts as a bold and brilliant overture for an album that is brimming with fun and off-the-wall musical treats, including light rapping, robot voices, a Steppenwolf cover, and wild synth and guitar tones throughout.
Listening to Deap Lips, it’s easy to hear the musical characteristics of both Deap Vally and the Flaming Lips, but each band’s sounds have been so well-kneaded into the musical dough of this project that the album came out of the oven sounding truly original. It’s no surprise that this crew could cook up something fresh as both bands are seasoned collaborators: The Flaming Lips are well-known for working with a wide range of artists, from Miley Cyrus and Kesha to Mick Jones and the White Stripes, while Deap Vally have been working on a collaborative album with artists such as KT Tunstall, Peaches, and members of bands like Warpaint and Queens of the Stone Age.
As a guitar and drum two-piece, Deap Vally have just the right amount of room in their sound for two Flaming Lips to join in with synthesizers, bass, some guitars, and a handful of songs. Guitarist Lindsey Troy explains, “When you’re in a two-piece, people are always asking, ‘Will you add a third member?’ So this is our way of experimenting with that. It was fun to throw someone else in the room to change up the dynamic and it’s been great. We just thought we’d do one song with the Flaming Lips. We didn’t know it was gonna turn into a whole record, but it’s amazing that it did.”
It took some kismet for the two bands to come together. In 2016, Wayne Coyne was in Raleigh, North Carolina, meeting with the creator of the “World’s Largest Gummy Bear” about making some props for the Lips when he checked out a show by Wolfmother, where Deap Vally was opening. He tracked down Lindsey at the merch booth and the two hit it off immediately. It was only a matter of time before Lindsey hit up Coyne with the proposal to work on some music together, and in early 2018 she and drummer Julie Edwards were on their way to Wayne’s home studio, Pink Floor, to work with Coyne and fellow-Lip Steven Drozd. “We went out to Oklahoma City and stayed with Wayne at his house and wrote and recorded for five days, had a really great time, made some awesome stuff,” says Troy. “After that, he kept sending us more ideas and was eventually like, ‘Let’s do a full album.’ He’d send us stuff and we’d go into the studio in L.A. and send him stuff and that’s how the rest of it got finished.”
We caught up with Troy and Drozd to get both sides of the story behind the songwriting, gear, and guitar sounds on Deap Lips, and made sure to ask if the two bands will ever come together for a live tour.
Once Deap Vally arrived in Oklahoma City at Wayne’s house, how did you all get started on this record?
Lindsey Troy: It’s kind of funny. We’d already done several of these collaborations and the way we approached them in the past was that we’d just go into a room and start jamming on ideas in the studio and create a song that way. That’s what we were expecting to do with the Lips, so we didn’t really bring anything. But they were like, “We don’t really write that way,” so they had a couple things prepped for us, which was cool. We weren’t expecting that.
One night, we went into the studio and Julie and I were on our instruments and Wayne played around with some beat machines and we found some riffs that way. So we brought those to Steven and he wrote more parts and fleshed them out.
Steven Drozd: It’s a strange thing. I think maybe people have an impression of how these things usually go and for us it can go so many ways. I heard their music just a few days before, because Wayne wanted me to come to the studio and work with them. Besides the Flaming Lips, Wayne’s always got art and other stuff going on, so when he told me he was interested in trying to make music with this band, I wasn’t that surprised. We’re always working on music that might not work for the Flaming Lips but could work for someone else, so I had that in mind already.
I met them and we hit it off pretty well and it turned out that Julie’s brother [Greg Edwards] and I made some music together way back when in the ’90s. He was in a band called Failure that toured with us in 1994. It was pretty easy getting to know each other.
The thing that I was into immediately is that their music is really visceral—it’s riffs and energy. I thought this could be a cool mix of us doing some of our more ornate musical things and them doing some of their more raw, riff things, and it seems like it kind of mostly went that way. It was great from the get-go.
How many tracks did you do together in Oklahoma City?
Troy: We did four. It was “The Pusher,” “There Is Know Right There Is Know Wrong,” “Home Thru Hell,” and “Shit Talkin.”
TIDBIT: Four of the 10 tracks on Deap Lips were made with all band members present at Wayne Coyne’s home studio in Oklahoma City. The remaining songs were curated through Coyne and Steven Drozd in Oklahoma exchanging song ideas back and forth with Deap Vally’s Lindsey Troy and Julie Edwards in L.A.
Drozd: Wayne had a few things and “The Pusher” is something I started in my studio at home. I didn’t get very far because I couldn’t find a cool way to do the vocals that I liked. I think it turned out really well with Lindsey’s voice.
“There Is Know Right There Is Know Wrong” is based on a riff of a song of Wayne’s nephew’s [Dennis Coyne, of Stardeath and White Dwarfs] from years ago, and I built a new chord structure for a bridge and chorus.
One thing Wayne wanted to do was have Lindsey set up her thing and have Julie set up her thing and just record them and see what it felt like. Most of the main riffs are basically them. “Home Thru Hell,” that’s Lindsey and Julie together. There’s a bunch of other stuff on it, but that’s basically them.
How did you end up doing a cover of Steppenwolf’s “The Pusher”?
Drozd: You know, I just get these weird ideas. I heard “The Pusher” by Steppenwolf on the radio—it’s a Hoyt Axton song but Steppenwolf had the hit with it. There are elements of the song that are so amazing. It’s so dark and fucked up and weird. I thought, wouldn’t it be cool if a band like Kraftwerk did a version of “The Pusher?” Like, this cold, electronic version that doesn’t have the bluesy solo and it’s all cold and drum machine-ish. It just started like that.
Troy: It was cool. It’s a classic-rock song, but it’s so wildly different from the original. Basically, only the lyrics are the same—the music is different and the melody is different.
Speaking of vocals, on “Motherfuckers Got to Go” you rap a little at one point, which is kind of different than other Deap Vally stuff.
Troy: That song was definitely kind of a weird one, but it ended up coming out kind of cool. It’s very repetitive but it works because it’s anthemic. We’ve played around with vocals like that a little bit in the past, so we were down for it.
But Troy wasn’t always an in-your-face player—she started on classical guitar and fingerpicking. Her father, a rock biographer, taught her “Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door” when she was 10. She didn’t get serious about guitar until age16, graduating from a “cheap, shitty child-size guitar” to a Baby Taylor, and borrowing her dad’s full-sized Taylor acoustic whenever she could get her hands on it.
Believe it or not, Troy only plugged in three years ago, when she met Deap Vally’s other half, drummer Julie Edwards. The first electric Troy played was a wood-finished 1976 Fender Mustang, which remains her No. 1 axe. At first she just liked it because it was free. “My dad bought it off of his friend who was hard up for money and living in his van,” she recalls. “First I just asked my dad for it because he wasn’t using it, I needed a guitar, and I was broke. But then I fell in love with it. I’m really protective of it. It’s old, it has its own sound, it’s light, and I'm just used to playing it.”
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Troy’s main guitar influence was her sister Anna, two years her senior. They had a family band. “She’s a fantastic guitar player,” says Lindsey. “She was always better than me, and I really looked up to her and admired her,” As a teenager Lindsey was into softer pickers like Elliott Smith, but now cites harder-edged influences: Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, Nick Zinner, Jack White, Joan Jett, and Black Sabbath.
Despite the fact that Deap Vally is often compared to other rock duos such as the White Stripes and the Black Keys, they didn’t set out to be a two-piece. “The first time we jammed together we played with a female bass player,” Troy says. The bassist, Ashley Dzerigian, was too busy with other commitments (she’s currently playing with Adam Lambert and Maximum Hedrum), so the band carried on without bass, and that format progressed naturally for Troy and Edwards.
“As a two-piece, you just get those comparisons,” Troy notes. “But those groups laid a lot of groundwork for two-pieces, showing that it’s possible to have a full, cool, original sound with two members. Being in a duo makes it easier to play in sync with each other. It’s kind of like having sex with one person versus having sex with three people.” The duo’s songwriting is collaborative—they conceptualize and develop ideas together, whether a song is born from a lyrical concept, a guitar riff, or a beat.
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Whether riffing or soloing, Troy tends to mix notes and chords. “I try to keep a chord in there every measure to ground the solo so it doesn't drift into the abyss,” she says. “But who knows? Maybe I'll experiment more with the abyss on the next record.”
Troy, who loves playing with sonic textures, admits she suffers from chronic pedal lust: “I bought a pedal and fell in love, then bought another pedal and fell in love. So on and so on. But I intentionally kept my pedalboard very minimal on this first album because I wanted to really hone our sound and lay the framework of what Deap Vally is.”
Yet some not-so-simple effects did make their way on the album. “Your Love,” for example, features Hendrix-flavored reverse echo. “We used a vintage analog [Roland] Space Echo for that bit,” Troy divulges. “That was one of our favorite toys on this record.”
But the one pedal Troy can’t live without is her Electro-Harmonix Big Muff. “It's hard to imagine using any other fuzz pedal,” she says. “I tend to be a believer in, ‘If it ain't broke don't fix it.’ I suppose something else could take my breath away. I played around with my friend's [Z. Vex] Woolly Mammoth, and that thing seemed pretty sick.” To cover more ground and fill the void of not having a bassist, Troy blasts her fuzz riffs through a Fender Deluxe and a Fender 1965 Bassman reissue, running simultaneously.
Lindsey Troy's Gear
Guitars
1976 Fender Mustang
Backup modern Mustang
Amps
Fender Deluxe
Fender Bassman 1965 reissue
Effects and Strings
Electro-Harmonix Big Muff
DeltaLab DD1 Digital Delay pedal
Roland Space Echo
Troy is also branching out into slide playing, incorporating it on “Six Feet Under,” the closing track of Sistrionix and her favorite song to play live on tour opening for Arctic Monkeys and Black Rebel Motorcycle Club. “It's just so drippy and swampy and aching,” she says. “It adds a really nice dynamic shift to the set. It's like getting in a really hot Jacuzzi after going down some crazy water slides.”
At the end of the day, Troy just wants to make noise she digs. Her no-frills attitude helps her music stand out while giving her the confidence to be truly creative. Her advice to budding guitarists is to go for it on your own at the beginning, and really spend time with your instrument. “In his biography, Keith Richards talks about how every guitar player should start on acoustic because it’s muscularly much more challenging,” she says. “There’s a lot to be said for that, and I’m really glad to have had all those years playing acoustic to really get my chops. But when the time comes that you want to plug in, don’t be afraid to make noise and try shit out. You can’t really go wrong—it’s about having fun.”
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Deap Vally’s Lindsey Troy and Julie Edwards give an intimate performance during a live recording for Vevo (Troy’s beloved Big Muff makes a cameo at 0:48).
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