Khruangbin’s Mark Speer, caught here at the 2017 Outside Lands festival in San Francisco, plays only one guitar: a 2001 Fender Strat modified with a Graph Tech TUSQ nut and DiMarzio Cruiser pickups in the neck and bridge.
Photo by Rich Osweiler
Did you track the album in Houston?
The band was formed in Burton, which is a little town outside of Brenham, which is where Blue Bell Ice Cream comes from. We still record there now. It’s just out in the middle of nowhere. You can be isolated from the noise of the city. There’s hardly any cell phone service. There’s no Wi-Fi, that’s for sure. We play in a barn. You can open up all the doors and let the wind go through and look out and see the cows.
Now when you say barn…
It’s like dirt floors and corrugated tin siding. If you open up the doors, the sound is a lot more dry. And if you close the door, you get a lot more room sound. So you can change it up depending on what you’re trying to do. Everything is tracked in the barn, live. There’s no punch-ins or overdubs that are done there. We do overdubs in Houston at SugarHill Recording Studios. But everything is done in the barn, as far as bass, drums, and guitar.
How are you able to get such a focused sound with the bass and drums in that barn?
I don’t know if it is very focused. We even try to mic the bass amp. She’s using a Bassman 10, which is like a Fender 4x10 from the late ’60s to mid ’70s. The reason we like it is that it doesn’t do what modern bass amps do, which is scoop out all the mids. The highest treble you get is around 6k. The treble you hear is fingers. It’s character.
What amp or amps do you record with?
My blackface Deluxe Reverb reissue from ’96, or something. It’s one of the beige covered ones. It’s got a brown screen, a black face, and is covered in beige tolex. It’s been beat to absolute hell. That one won’t go on the road with me, simply because it’s so ugly. [Laughs.] But it sounds amazing.
The amp I take on the road in the States is the [’68 Custom Deluxe] silverface reissue from just a couple years ago. That one looks fantastic and matches Laura Lee’s bass amp. But that doesn’t sound nearly as good as my old blackface. I’ve actually been considering taking the guts from the blackface and sticking them into the silver.
Other than reverb, your guitar tone seems fairly straight-into-the-amp.
My preferred setup is my guitar into a Cry Baby wah that I never turn off. It’s usually toe-down, in its most trebly region, so if I have to switch it on, it doesn’t change the tone so drastically. And then it goes from there into a Boss DS-1. And then it goes from that into an Electro-Harmonix Holy Grail.
But when we mixed the records, all the delays and stuff were done in the mix. So when we do a show, I have a Strymon El Capistan for delay with an expression pedal hooked up to the back. There’s also a Nose volume pedal. It’s like a volume knob that allows me to move it with my feet on the board. Also, sometimes I like to use a really, really slow vibrato at the end of the chain to change the pitch. Right now, I have a Chase Bliss Warped Vinyl on it. It sounds really psychedelic and warpy. But honestly, I wish I could go back to the wah and DS-1 and that’s it.
On “Evan Finds the Third Room” from the new album, there’s a great-sounding phaser effect. Was that done in the mix?
I think it’s a Boss PH-something. It’s the green one. I love phaser. It’s one of my favorite effects in the whole world. I got it on the new record on a couple cuts.
Tell me about your Strat.
I got that one back in 2001 or 2002. It’s basically the only guitar I have. I replaced the neck pickup with a DiMarzio Cruiser because it buzzed too much. And I did the same thing in the bridge position so I could get some screaming leads. [Laughs.] The frets have been replaced two or three times. The saddles are TUSQ, which is great, because I hate changing my strings. I just don’t like the way new strings sound. That’s why I like flatwounds. Once they’re broken in, they’re going to sound like that until they break. And I wired [the Strat] wrong in position two. So it has this Sears, Teisco-type of vibe. It actually sounds really great. I love it.
Does that sound make it to the albums?
Oh yeah. It’s all over the place. That’s the tone of “Two Fish and an Elephant” [on The Universe Smiles Upon You].
Your guitar tone is dominated by huge washes of spring-sounding reverb. What draws you to that sound?
I think it’s the fact that it fills up the sound. There’s only three of us, so I’m using ambient effects like reverb and delay to fill it out. But I don’t actually use the amp’s reverb because I’m on the road so much. I don’t ever know what kind of amp I’m going to get when I’m out of the country. So I just use the Holy Grail. I have it around noon to 1 o’clock and leave it there. It’s on the spring setting.
I don’t know if you’ve listened to a lot of Indian music, but a sitar kind of has a built-in reverb. So does a rabab from Afghanistan. It creates this mystical kind of vibe. So reverb’s a huge part of what I do.
I’ve always been into digging for music that’s not in English. That’s because with music in other languages, I don’t know what they’re saying. So what moves me is the melodies and how they’re singing and the intensity behind it. And in that sense, it achieves a lot of the same stuff as instrumental music. It’s just an amazing melody delivered in a captivating way.
Me and Laura Lee found Thai music through a blog, called Monrakplengthai, which means “I Love Thai Music.” We kind of got obsessed with this stuff and made mix CDs.
You translate that beautifully on the new Khruangbin album. There are vocals on the majority of tracks, but the voice is utilized as more of an instrument.
Yeah. It’s an atmospheric kind of thing. In Khruangbin, the guitar is taking the place of the lead singer. And so with that, I’m listening to a lot more singers than I am guitar players. There are a lot of guitar players that I love. But I’m specifically trying to make it sing.
Khruangbin performs “Maria También” from Con Todo El Mundo live on Santa Monica’s KCRW. Note how Speer’s guitar solo, at 1:46, puts his Middle Eastern influence front and center, yet still—thanks to his generous use of reverb and accent on melody—displays a surf-guitar resonance.