Mat Mitchell and Greg Edwards on how Maynard James Keenan (Tool, A Perfect Circle) pushed them to creative liberation on the supergroup’s new Existential Reckoning.
In 2018, Greg Edwards stepped out of his comfort zone. For the most part, his career up till then had been focused on his own projects—like his bands Failure and Autolux—not on being a journeyman. But A Perfect Circle was touring in support of Eat the Elephant, and guitarist James Iha was unable to come along due to prior commitments with Smashing Pumpkins. Edwards—who's known A Perfect Circle (and Tool) frontman Maynard James Keenan since 1994, when Failure opened for Tool and the Flaming Lips—agreed to help out.
During a break in the ensuing APC tour, Edwards got a mysterious call from Keenan. “He just said, 'Start practicing fretless,'" Edwards recalls. The suggestion wasn't completely insane. Edwards, who plays both bass and guitar, had already played fretless bass in the first incarnation of Failure (having been heavily influenced by early new wave band Japan's Mick Karn, and Brian Eno bassist Percy Jones). But it certainly hadn't been his focus in recent years.
“I love the feeling of playing fretless," he says. “I love what it does, sonically, and what it can achieve in a song. But it was a challenge to get back. It's a whole new set of concerns when you're playing fretless, especially with someone like Maynard singing. The intonation has to be spot on. But that appealed to me."
But “challenge" seems to be an operative word when it comes to Keenan's creative process, including with his supergroup Puscifer's new Existential Reckoning, where idiosyncratic instrumentation and outmoded/vintage technologies were key facilitators. Happy with Edwards' performance in APC, Keenan brought him along for the Existential ride, as well. He also brought back longtime production, songwriting, and guitar-playing/mad scientist collaborator Mat Mitchell.
For the Reckoning sessions, Mitchell (who, along with Keenan and vocalist/multi-instrumentalist Carina Round, forms the nucleus of the band) wanted something to disrupt his usual workflow and stimulate his imagination. His solution? State-of-the-art-circa-1980 computer-driven synthesizers like a Synclavier and a Fairlight CMI (famously used by Peter Gabriel on his eponymous 1980 release).
“Part of [the appeal]," says Mitchell of the quirky gear, “is the flow—the way that you work when you're using these tools. It forces you to do things differently. They are very limited, and being creative within very set boundaries is really good."
TIDBIT: Cumbersome vintage synth hardware was a key foil to the guitar and bass parts on Existential Reckoning.
But the instruments did more than just force Mitchell into a new headspace. “They sound very unique," he explains. “Of course, you can sample one and put it in a laptop, but it's different. The way that both of those instruments are is that all the voices are separate hardware. When you hit a note, it is bouncing around between [processor] cards, so you can hit a note five times and it may sound different all five times. There are all these little things that affect the way it sounds when you're performing on it, which is a very different sound from what you get when you sample."
Mitchell applied that same disorienting criteria when choosing his main guitar for Existential Reckoning. In the end, he settled on a headless Steinberger GL2T.
“I've always wanted one," he says. “When you get your hands on one, you realize it doesn't feel like a luthier-made instrument. It feels like an engineer or a clockmaker made it. It feels more like a watch than it does a guitar, and it seemed fitting for what we were doing. The whole record is this mix of organic and early electronics, and a wood guitar just didn't feel right."
When he's not learning almost-forgotten synth technology or wrangling sounds from his Steinberger, Mitchell focuses primarily on the creative process itself. He has a reference folder filled with everything from full arrangements of possible songs to keyboard sounds that strike his fancy. He shares that folder with Keenan, who goes through it when he has the time or when he's ready to start working on a new Puscifer album. When they find something that clicks, they play with it, develop it, and take the first tentative steps toward crafting a song.
Mitchell customized his Steinberger by replacing its humbuckers with single-coils. “When you play soft and you play hard on a single-coil, there is a bigger range than you get from a humbucker." Photo by Mitra Mehvar.jpg
“Typically, I'll build out the arrangements, and that's when Greg comes in," says Mitchell. “Most of the arrangements were already there, and then he interpreted on top of that. There were a few moments where he went in an unexpected direction, and I suggested we change the chord structure to match what he was doing. We're not precious about anything until it's done. We're all happy to let it be in flux and to let each person's decisions push it one way or another."
That openness played to Edwards' strengths. Left alone in a studio room with synths and roughly 20 different stringed instruments—including fretted and fretless basses, guitars, an electric sitar, and an electric violin—he was like a kid in a candy store.
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Although much of Edwards' work with Keenan in both A Perfect Circle and Puscifer is on a fretless bass, he also puts in a fair amount of time on a Rickenbacker 4001. Photo by Mitra Mehvar
“I spent a few days with each song in there, with Mat—through the glass—working on his own thing in the control room," Edwards says. “I experimented, grabbed whatever I saw on the wall, made sounds, and got somewhere with it. Whatever seemed like it might elevate the song in some way—or potentially destroy the song in some way—I would grab and go for it. I had the lyric sheets in front of me. I had access to the whole emotional thematic landscape of the song, and I enjoyed that."
More to the point, the experience was liberating. “In my own band, with writing the songs and lyrics, it's a different thing when it comes time to commit to whatever bass line or guitar part I'm going to play—there are so many other things on your mind. It was really nice to just be an instrumentalist. I came in, added, and hopefully elevated the music that was already there. But it wasn't my responsibility to write anything."
Ah, but what about guitars? Existential Reckoning is chock-full of heavy guitar tones, but it's not a riff-oriented album. The guitars add texture, tension, and—despite the abundance of old school technology—give it a modern feel. Check out tracks like “Apocalyptical," “Theorem," or “Bullet Train to Iowa." This is not a retro, backward-looking album, and the guitars—maybe ironically—are a big part of that. But, ultimately, Puscifer is a guitar band.
“Historically, I start creating on guitar, because that's my primary instrument," Mitchell says. “On this record I decided to start with the synthesizers—the Fairlight and the Synclavier—mainly to break away from my comfort zone. The guitars, for the most part, came at the end. They were more of a thread, or a way to tie a lot of things together. There is a really unique sound to the guitar, and I didn't just want it to be a keyboard record. I wanted to make sure those signatures were on there."
For Mitchell, those “signatures" start with a single-coil pickup in the bridge position. “When you play soft and you play hard on a single-coil, there is a bigger range than you get from a humbucker." On his previous outing with Puscifer, he used a Fender Custom Shop Esquire built to 1950s specs. For Existential Reckoning, although he was committed to using the Steinberger, he still wanted that sound. Luckily, he isn't averse to mods.
Bases
Fender Tony Franklin Fretless PrecisionFender Precision
Rickenbacker 4001
Amps
Gallien-Krueger 800RBAmpeg SVT
Bergantino cab
Effects
T-Rex Bass JuiceMoog Moogerfooger MF-102 Ring Modulator
Malekko B:assmaster Harmonic Octave Analog Distortion
Dunlop Uni-Vibe UV-1
Providence Anadime Bass Chorus
MXR Bass Compressor
Eventide TimeFactor
EBS OctaBass
Source Audio Soundblox Pro Multiwave Bass Distortion
Demeter VTBP-201 preamp
CAE MIDI Foot Controller
RJM Effect Gizmo switcher
Strings and Picks
GHS string sets (.045–.105)Dunlop Tortex .88 mm picks
“The Steinberger came with EMG humbuckers," explains Mitchell. “I put EMG single-coils in it. They look like humbuckers—that way you're not messing with the look of it. They're also extremely quiet. I was reading an article with David Gilmour about Pink Floyd's Momentary Lapse of Reason album. He had gotten his hands on a Steinberger and said he really loved it because you can use single-coils, but you're not getting any fuzz or noise or any sort of buzzing. You can really play delicate lines and not have to deal with any of that stuff. That was one of the driving things about it. It's crazy—there's literally no noise when you're playing that thing."
As for Edwards and his fretless work on Reckoning, he reminds us that Money Shot, the band's previous album, was also all fretless—only he wasn't the one playing it. “I played all the bass on that record," Mitchell confesses. “But that was me coming at it as a guitar player. So it's more a guitar player's version of what it sounds like to play fretless." With Edwards wielding the 4-string this time, the lines feel more like how a bona fide bassist would approach it—although he didn't necessarily rely on fretless conventions or try to mimic prominent stylists like Jaco Pastorius, Tony Franklin, Mick Karn, or Percy Jones.
“Take a song like 'The Underwhelming,'" says Edwards. “That chorus is fretless—and if you listen you can hear that it's fretless—but it doesn't jump out at you as being a fretless instrument. It's slightly more expressive, and the sustain is a little different. The way you can fall off and come into notes, it's just a different kind of vibe. It's almost like a portamento effect, where on a fretted bass, when you go over the hump of the fret you're into the next note, and that's it. It's a very abrupt, binary thing. Whereas with a fretless, you have this infinite continuum of microtones in between."
He also almost always went direct. “I had all these amps in that room, but really I just went through a classic Demeter VTBP-201 DI tube preamp that Mat has. It just has a few knobs on it, and it's tuned for bass in such a way that you get this really warm, deep fundamental. It's unique. It's fairly subtle, but it really does make a difference in a mix."
Of course, the goal for all the bandmates' gear choices, whether weird or conventional, is to find whatever helps them uncover moments of creative gold. In the end it's not so much about the gear as their attitude. Because, in addition to an appreciation for great songwriting and a seemingly endless fascination with outrageousness, what really unites Puscifer is its members' trust in each other and their willingness to be uncomfortable.
“Sometimes we are working together and sometimes we are working separately and staring at each other," Mitchell laughs. “You feel that energy of being part of something, but you're also isolated, so you can focus on what you're doing and not have other people's opinions getting in your way."
The official video for Existential Reckoning's“The Underwhelming" finds Mat Mitchell putting his single-coil-modded Steinberger GL2T to work while Greg Edwards plays his trusty Fender Tony Franklin Fretless P bass.
Photos by Travis Shinn
How Mat and Greg Met Maynard
The road to working with Puscifer's fabled frontman, Maynard James Keenan, was quite divergent for Mat Mitchell and Greg Edwards, but their different experiences dovetail to make the group stronger.Both started playing in bands—Mitchell as a teen in Florida, and Edwards with Failure. But Mitchell soon diverted into the studio, where he started working on SSL desks and editing tape with razor blades, before moving to Austin, where he connected with and engineered for heavyweight industrial bands like Ministry and Pigface, and Texas psych-rock dervishes the Butthole Surfers. He even worked in electronic arts, doing video-game work for a few years. “Then I realized I needed to get back into the music side of things." His resume also includes work with Katy Perry, Queens of the Stone Age, and Nine Inch Nails.
Nearly 20 years ago, after a Ministry tour on which Mitchell ran the live video content, he was told that A Perfect Circle guitarist and co-founder Billy Howerdel was looking for help. “We got on the phone and really got along," Mitchell says. “He's super techy as well, and we had a lot of similar favorite pieces of gear and things like that. It was natural that we started working together. When we finished that tour cycle, they immediately went back in the studio to start working on a new record, and I was asked to be involved with that. That's where Maynard and I started working in a creative capacity, and I have been hands-on on everything he's done since."
Edwards, meanwhile, connected with Keenan on the Los Angeles music scene, and they bonded further on tour when Failure opened for the Flaming Lips and Tool. “The Tool audiences were not open minded, especially at that time," Edwards recounts. “That was a tough gig for the Flaming Lips, but it was an incredible bill for me, because I got to watch the Flaming Lips and Tool every night. They were totally different bands, and it was so educational.
“On that tour, Maynard would sometimes come out and sing a song with us. When he wasn't busy with something else, he'd introduce us to the audience. He'd basically say, 'You're too stupid to understand this band, but try to pay attention.' If he did that, we had their full attention and there was no booing or low chants of 'Tool' throughout the whole set. But if he didn't introduce us, we just got abused through the entire show."
Edwards formed a cover band called Replicants that cut an album in 1996. “I wanted to do [Wings'] 'Silly Love Songs' in a very dark, super-halftime feel, and have Maynard sing it. He came in and did that. I think that was the last time I did anything with him, creatively, until I was onstage with A Perfect Circle. This is the first record where I've worked with Maynard. It's something I always assumed would happen, but I guess it took a while."
“Practice Loud”! How Duane Denison Preps for a New Jesus Lizard Record
After 26 years, the seminal noisy rockers return to the studio to create Rack, a master class of pummeling, machine-like grooves, raving vocals, and knotty, dissonant, and incisive guitar mayhem.
The last time the Jesus Lizard released an album, the world was different. The year was 1998: Most people counted themselves lucky to have a cell phone, Seinfeld finished its final season, Total Request Live was just hitting MTV, and among the year’s No. 1 albums were Dave Matthews Band’s Before These Crowded Streets, Beastie Boys’ Hello Nasty, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, Korn’s Follow the Leader, and the Armageddonsoundtrack. These were the early days of mp3 culture—Napster didn’t come along until 1999—so if you wanted to hear those albums, you’d have to go to the store and buy a copy.
The Jesus Lizard’s sixth album, Blue, served as the band’s final statement from the frontlines of noisy rock for the next 26 years. By the time of their dissolution in 1999, they’d earned a reputation for extreme performances chock full of hard-hitting, machine-like grooves delivered by bassist David Wm. Sims and, at their conclusion, drummer Mac McNeilly, at times aided and at other times punctured by the frontline of guitarist Duane Denison’s incisive, dissonant riffing, and presided over by the cantankerous howl of vocalist David Yow. In the years since, performative, thrilling bands such as Pissed Jeans, METZ, and Idles have built upon the Lizard’s musical foundation.
Denison has kept himself plenty busy over the last couple decades, forming the avant-rock supergroup Tomahawk—with vocalist Mike Patton, bassist Trevor Dunn (both from Mr. Bungle), and drummer John Stanier of Helmet—and alongside various other projects including Th’ Legendary Shack Shakers and Hank Williams III. The Jesus Lizard eventually reunited, but until now have only celebrated their catalog, never releasing new jams.
The Jesus Lizard, from left: bassist David Wm. Sims, singer David Yow, drummer Mac McNeilly, and guitarist Duane Denison.
Photo by Joshua Black Wilkins
Back in 2018, Denison, hanging in a hotel room with Yow, played a riff on his unplugged electric guitar that caught the singer’s ear. That song, called “West Side,” will remain unreleased for now, but Denison explains: “He said, ‘Wow, that’s really good. What is that?’ And I said, ‘It’s just some new thing. Why don’t we do an album?’” From those unassuming beginnings, the Jesus Lizard’s creative juices started flowing.
So, how does a band—especially one who so indelibly captured the ineffable energy of live rock performance—prepare to get a new record together 26 years after their last? Back in their earlier days, the members all lived together in a band house, collectively tending to the creative fire when inspiration struck. All these years later, they reside in different cities, so their process requires sending files back and forth and only meeting up for occasional demo sessions over the course of “three or four years.”
“When the time comes to get more in performance mode, I have a practice space. I go there by myself and crank it up. I turn that amp up and turn the metronome up and play loud.” —Duane Denison
the Jesus Lizard "Alexis Feels Sick"
Distance creates an obstacle to striking while the proverbial iron is hot, but Denison has a method to keep things energized: “Practice loud.” The guitarist professes the importance of practice, in general, and especially with a metronome. “We keep very detailed records of what the beats per minute of these songs are,” he explains. “To me, the way to do it is to run it to a Bluetooth speaker and crank it, and then crank your amp. I play a little at home, but when the time comes to get more in performance mode, I have a practice space. I go there by myself and crank it up. I turn that amp up and turn the metronome up and play loud.”
It’s a proven solution. On Rack—recorded at Patrick Carney’s Audio Eagle studio with producer Paul Allen—the band sound as vigorous as ever, proving they’ve not only remained in step with their younger selves, but they may have surpassed it with faders cranked. “Duane’s approach, both as a guitarist and writer, has an angular and menacing fingerprint that is his own unique style,” explains Allen. “The conviction in his playing that he is known for from his recordings in the ’80s and ’90s is still 100-percent intact and still driving full throttle today.”
“I try to be really, really precise,” he says. “I think we all do when it comes to the basic tracks, especially the rhythm parts. The band has always been this machine-like thing.” Together, they build a tension with Yow’s careening voice. “The vocals tend to be all over the place—in and out of tune, in and out of time,” he points out. “You’ve got this very free thing moving around in the foreground, and then you’ve got this very precise, detailed band playing behind it. That’s why it works.”
Before Rack, the Jesus Lizard hadn’t released a new record since 1998’s Blue.
Denison’s guitar also serves as the foreground foil to Yow’s unhinged raving, as on “Alexis Feels Sick,” where they form a demented harmony, or on the midnight creep of “What If,” where his vibrato-laden melodies bolster the singer’s unsettled, maniacal display. As precise as his riffs might be, his playing doesn’t stay strictly on the grid. On the slow, skulking “Armistice Day,” his percussive chording goes off the rails, giving way to a solo that slices that groove like a chef’s knife through warm butter as he reorganizes rock ’n’ roll histrionics into his own cut-up vocabulary.
“During recording sessions, his first solo takes are usually what we decide to keep,” explains Allen. “Listen to Duane’s guitar solos on Jack White’s ‘Morning, Noon, and Night,’ Tomahawk’s ‘Fatback,’ and ‘Grind’ off Rack. There’s a common ‘contained chaos’ thread among them that sounds like a harmonic Rubik’s cube that could only be solved by Duane.”
“Duane’s approach, both as a guitarist and writer, has an angular and menacing fingerprint that is his own unique style.” —Rack producer Paul Allen
To encapsulate just the right amount of intensity, “I don’t over practice everything,” the guitarist says. Instead, once he’s created a part, “I set it aside and don’t wear it out.” On Rack, it’s obvious not a single kilowatt of musical energy was lost in the rehearsal process.
Denison issues his noisy masterclass with assertive, overdriven tones supporting his dissonant voicings like barbed wire on top of an electric fence. The occasional application of slapback delay adds a threatening aura to his exacting riffage. His tones were just as carefully crafted as the parts he plays, and he relied mostly on his signature Electrical Guitar Company Chessie for the sessions, though a Fender Uptown Strat also appears, as well as a Taylor T5Z, which he chose for its “cleaner, hyper-articulated sound” on “Swan the Dog.” Though he’s been spotted at recent Jesus Lizard shows with a brand-new Powers Electric—he points out he played a demo model and says, “I just couldn’t let go of it,” so he ordered his own—that wasn’t until tracking was complete.
Duane Denison's Gear
Denison wields his Powers Electric at the Blue Room in Nashville last June.
Photo by Doug Coombe
Guitars
- Electrical Guitar Company Chessie
- Fender Uptown Strat
- Taylor T5Z
- Gibson ES-135
- Powers Electric
Amps
- Hiwatt Little J
- Hiwatt 2x12 cab with Fane F75 speakers
- Fender Super-Sonic combo
- Early ’60s Fender Bassman
- Marshall 1987X Plexi Reissue
- Victory Super Sheriff head
- Blackstar HT Stage 60—2 combos in stereo with Celestion Neo Creamback speakers and Mullard tubes
Effects
- Line 6 Helix
- Mantic Flex Pro
- TC Electronic G-Force
- Menatone Red Snapper
Strings and Picks
- Stringjoy Orbiters .0105 and .011 sets
- Dunlop celluloid white medium
- Sun Studios yellow picks
He ran through various amps—Marshalls, a Fender Bassman, two Fender Super-Sonic combos, and a Hiwatt Little J—at Audio Eagle. Live, if he’s not on backline gear, you’ll catch him mostly using 60-watt Blackstar HT Stage 60s loaded with Celestion Neo Creambacks. And while some boxes were stomped, he got most of his effects from a Line 6 Helix. “All of those sounds [in the Helix] are modeled on analog sounds, and you can tweak them endlessly,” he explains. “It’s just so practical and easy.”
The tools have only changed slightly since the band’s earlier days, when he favored Travis Beans and Hiwatts. Though he’s started to prefer higher gain sounds, Allen points out that “his guitar sound has always had teeth with a slightly bright sheen, and still does.”
“Honestly, I don’t think my tone has changed much over the past 30-something years,” Denison says. “I tend to favor a brighter, sharper sound with articulation. Someone sent me a video I had never seen of myself playing in the ’80s. I had a band called Cargo Cult in Austin, Texas. What struck me about it is it didn’t sound terribly different than what I sound like right now as far as the guitar sound and the approach. I don’t know what that tells you—I’m consistent?”
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The Jesus Lizard take off at Nashville’s Blue Room this past June with “Hide & Seek” from Rack.
PG contributor Tom Butwin takes a deep dive into LR Baggs' HiFi Duet system.
LR Baggs HiFi Duet High-fidelity Pickup and Microphone Mixing System
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The two pedals mark the debut of the company’s new Street Series, aimed at bringing boutique tone to the gigging musician at affordable prices.
The Phat Machine
The Phat Machine is designed to deliver the tone and responsiveness of a vintage germanium fuzz with improved temperature stability with no weird powering issues. Loaded with both a germanium and a silicon transistor, the Phat Machine offers the warmth and cleanup of a germanium fuzz but with the bite of a silicon pedal. It utilizes classic Volume and Fuzz control knobs, as well as a four-position Thickness control to dial-in any guitar and amp combo. Also included is a Bias trim pot and a Kill switch that allows battery lovers to shut off the battery without pulling the input cord.
Silk Worm Deluxe Overdrive
The Silk Worm Deluxe -- along with its standard Volume/Gain/Tone controls -- has a Bottom trim pot to dial in "just the right amount of thud with no mud at all: it’s felt more than heard." It also offers a Studio/Stage diode switch that allows you to select three levels of compression.
Both pedals offer the following features:
- 9-volt operation via standard DC external supply or internal battery compartment
- True bypass switching with LED indicator
- Pedalboard-friendly top mount jacks
- Rugged, tour-ready construction and super durable powder coated finish
- Made in the USA
Static Effectors’ Street Series pedals carry a street price of $149 each. They are available at select retailers and can also be purchased directly from the Static Effectors online store at www.staticeffectors.com.