
The search for the vintage world's holy grail.
In the vintage guitar world, the Gibson Moderne is the ultimate maddening mystery: the Holy Grail, El Dorado, the Unicorn, UFOs and Big Foot, if you will. It was designed along with the Flying V and Explorer as part of Gibsonās āModernisticā series in 1957 (the era of pulp fiction and the space craze), in order to shake up Gibsonās stodgy image. The V and Explorer made it into production, but the Moderne seemingly never saw the light of day, until Gibson saw fit to finally issue a limited run in 1982. To this day, not a single Moderne has ever been verified as original by anyone, although there have been forgeries, copies, and more false sightings than one could imagine. This article is a condensed history of the guitar, the fifty-plus-year search for an original exampleāthe myth, the mystery, the facts and the rumors.
A Controversy is Born
Ted McCarty, Gibsonās president during their golden age of the late 1950s, commissioned three āmodernisticā guitars in response to disparaging comments that had gotten back to him from the Fender camp in California. McCarty realized Gibsonās solidbody guitar line was rather staid, so he decided to shake the industry up with wild guitars inspired by futuristic, space-age concepts. After settling on three designs from the one hundred or so that were submitted, prototypes were made to be shown at the 1957 NAMM (National Association of Music Merchants) show in Chicago. Thereās speculation that only the Flying V and Explorer, then called the Futura, made it to the show, and that the Moderne was scrapped.
Others say all three guitars were shown, and that while the Flying V and Explorer achieved their goal of āshaking things upā at the show and getting into limited production, the Moderne was so poorly received that all the prototypes may have been scrapped at the Gibson factoryābut not before one was supposedly sent out to Gibsonās case supplier for fitting. Ted McCarty went to his grave claiming that at least several Modernes were built, but he didnāt know what had happened to them. Some Gibson employees say none were produced. A few say the prototypes were cut up and destroyed. A few others maintain that two Gibson employees took the parts and assembled three Modernes outside the factory, yet nobody seems to remember either of these men. Almost all the original players in this fascinating mystery tale are deceased.
If youāve never seen the Moderne, itās an extremely unique design thatās impossible to ignore. The left side of the body resembles a Flying V or a shark fin, while the smaller right side looks like an old-style can opener or a fish hook. Itās a radical shape even today, so one can only imagine how it must have appeared in the conservative Eisenhower era fifty-two years ago. The headstock was shaped like a widened boat paddle, with four string guides. Some think the Moderne is butt-ugly; others consider it a thing of beauty. You can make your own judgment.
Sightings: Fakes and Forgeries?
Illustrations: Michael C. Ludwig
Enter Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top, who owns what he believes and claims to be an original Moderne, purchased for āa little bit of nothingā in 1971. Although this guitar has been photographed, Gibbons, who has been described to me by someone who knows him well as a master of āsmoke and mirrors,ā has never allowed a single vintage guitar expert to examine his instrument, not even his friend George Gruhn. He has steadfastly refused to make the guitar public to any extent other than two questionable photos. Examining these images, it appears that Billy Gās Moderne looks very similar to the Japanese Ibanez āFuturaā Moderne copy that surfaced in 1975. Moderne copies have also been made with the names Greco and Antoria on the headstock, and Gibson produced offshore Moderne copies in the year 2000 with the Epiphone name.
Speaking of replicas, luthier Glen Miller (no relation to the late swing bandleader) manufactures Moderne, Explorer, and Flying V replicas at Wronaās House of Violins in Lewiston, NY. Miller began performing repairs shortly after getting his first guitar in 1970, and learned his trade in the shop of the late vintage guitar dealer Dan Hairfield. In 2003, Miller found a source for original Gibson parts.
āI had been searching for a Moderne and came across a listing for some supposed original Moderne parts,ā he says. āI contacted the seller, who had been a Gibson subcontractor and was fortunate enough to have attended the auction [when they closed up] the Kalamazoo factory in 1984. He purchased many bodies, necks and other hardware, but then put the parts in his storage area and forgot about them. I made a deal for most of the stuff he had, including original ā82 Moderne bodies and necks, plus ten Gibson logos.ā
Miller has built three Modernes from Gibson parts, plus five from his own parts, in addition to four Explorers and two Flying Vs.
The Plot Thickens
Unlike some, Glen Miller believes the original Moderne never existed.
āI donāt think one was ever made in the ā50s,ā he comments. āIt is clear from photos that Gibson rushed some prototype Vs and Explorers so they could display them at the ā57 NAMM show. The Moderne never made it into a single picture taken at the show. All the supposed sightings sound just like people who claim to have seen a UFO. The prototype Vs, Futuras, and Explorers with the Futura headstocks have all shown up. If there were any real ā50s Modernes, at least one would have surfaced by now. A ā50s Moderne does not exist.ā
Luthier Dan Erlewine claims to have owned a re-necked Moderne, but no longer has the guitar and never photographed it when it was in his possession. According to Erlewine, āA guy brought it into my shop on the outskirts of Ann Arbor and wanted to sell it. He said his dad sent it to Kalamazoo to have a Melody Maker neck put on it, because he liked the feel of his buddyās Melody Maker and wanted his guitar to have the same. I thought it was an Explorer, which Iād never seen, and I had never heard of the Moderne or the Futura. I paid $175, which was a lot of money at the time.ā
āWhen I removed the pickguard,ā he continues, āI found some routing had been done, and I believe different pickups had been installedāmaybe someone started a third pickup and never finished. I filled the unwanted rout with plaster of Paris, of all things, and painted black over the hole. I sold the guitar immediately to Ann Arbor Music to get my money back. They sold it to Doug Green, who worked for George Gruhn. I think the parties got into some pretty good arguments over it.ā That guitar was supposedly sold to a Japanese businessman. George Gruhn claimed to have examined it and deemed it a fake.
āGeorge knows more than I do about vintage guitars,ā Erlewine states. āIād say he didnāt see it. He bought it through his employee, Ranger Doug.ā
Dan Erlewine has never seen Billy Gibbonsā Moderne, either: āOnly recently did I see a glimpse of it in the photo of Billy in the convertible filled with guitars in the Ron Wood book. How would I know if itās original? What does āoriginalā mean anymore, especially with a guitar that has never been proven to exist.ā
āI have no idea why Billy has been so secretive about it,ā he adds. āIāve never met Billy. Heās a big star with lots of valuable guitars, and if it were me, Iād be protective about them, too. He hasnāt shown it to anyone because he doesnāt feel like it; he doesnāt have a need to. I donāt think Billy claims to be an expert on vintage guitars. Heās an expert at playing them!ā
Erlewine doesnāt subscribe to the theory that an original Moderne would have surfaced by now: āIf there were only three allegedly made, itās possible the owner doesnāt even care about guitars, or have a clue what it is. Itās a big world, and lots of strange things happen all the time.ā
āI never thought about the Moderne myth very much. The most I thought about it was a couple of years ago, when a man flew to Athens, OH, to show us a ārealā one that he had come acrossāhe was writing a book about it and wanted verification. He and the guitarās owner paid to have experts Phil Jones, Tom Murphy and Michael Stevens flown in for the weekend as part of the inspection team. Michael was ill and couldnāt attend, but Phil and Tom came. We had seen at least fifty photos of it before the get-together took place, and they were good enough to warrant us looking at it. Once the case was opened however, we could tell it wasnāt real. Probably some of the color photos in Ron Woodās book are of that guitar.ā
Summing it up, does Dan Erlewine think the Moderne ever existed? āI have no idea,ā he answers, ābut Iām starting to doubt it.ā
One Manās Quest for the Truth
As previously mentioned, Gibson relented to requests and officially introduced the Moderne in 1982. Howard Leese, formerly of Heart, was given the first prototype, which was painted Candy Apple Red. He also purchased one for his guitar tech. Both later sold the guitars for a tidy profit. Only 183 Modernes were produced in this run, and the public reaction was generally negative. Other than the Korean-made Epiphone copies, Gibson has refused to manufacture the Moderne since.
This brings us to Ronald Lynn Wood, a guitarist originally from Flint, MI, and now of Gainesville, FL, who became fascinated by the Moderne as a young man and set out to unravel the mystery of this elusive guitar. His new book, Moderne: The Holy Grail of Vintage Guitars, has just been released by Centerstream Publishing, and it is the most exhaustive and comprehensive accounting to date of the search, the history, and the rumors and facts surrounding the Moderne. Wood saw what he believes was a Moderne hanging in a Flint pawnshop in 1978, and from there began his quest for the truth behind the mystery.
āIt was like no other guitar I had ever seen,ā he recalls. āI distinctly remember the lower horn was shorter than the top. I never did get that Moderne, but always wondered if it was real or not. When I was thirteen, I used to subscribe to the newsletter put out by Guitar Trader from Red Bank, NJ. From my earliest days as a musician, I was fascinated with vintage guitars. There was all this talk about the Moderne in various books and magazines, but very little substance. Did they make one? Where was it?ā
Wood goes on to say, āI met Cohn Rude through an article he had written [on the Moderne] in Vintage Guitar magazine. He was very helpful and shared a lot of information with me, as did a good friend of his, Wayne Johnson. I had been collecting information about the Moderne for a long time, but after talking with them, it gave me the fire to finish the book.ā
Wood started saving information on the Moderne twelve years ago, and it took him five years to complete the book. He claims to have a great deal more information that didnāt make it into the book, information that he could not substantiate.
āA few days ago,ā Wood relates, āsomeone sent me a photo of a [Gibson] factory worker with a Moderne on her work bench in the final stages of assembly, so I absolutely think the guitar existed. I think at the very least two prototypes were made, but most likely four. Ted McCarty, John Huis and Julius Bellson, all Gibson management at the time, said there were several made. I spoke to an ex-Gibson employee, who refused to be identified, who claimed to have seen Modernes at the factory in 1963. Ren Wall of Heritage Guitars claims to have played a Moderne in the Gibson morgue in Kalamazoo in 1963, and borrowed it for use in a school dramatic production. Even some former Fender reps I spoke to said they saw all three futuristic guitars at the 1957 NAMM show.ā
āI would really love to see Billy Gibbonsā Moderne in person. He is strangely secretive about that guitar, which makes me wonder. He did an article in Guitar World magazine in 1982 and they photographed it. The rarest guitar in the world, and all you see is a sideways photo in the front seat of a car? He didnāt even include it in his own book! My guess is that his guitar might have vintage-correct parts, but that doesnāt make it real. Not even the most āguruā of vintage guitar experts has ever had the opportunity to inspect it. Billy gets any guitar custom made for himāwhy not a vintage-correct Moderne?ā
Wood believes a genuine Moderne would have surfaced by now, but thereās always the possibility it hasnāt: āI used to think one would have appeared by now, but I started talking to some fellows on the mylespaul.com forum a while back, and one of them told me his grandma had some āold guitars that say Gibson on themā up in her attic. She had no idea what they were, but they were old, perhaps from the ā50s. Itās highly possible that someone has a Moderne and might not have a clue as to its worth. I remember a couple years ago, some guy bought a ā79 Flying V from Goodwill for $25!ā
Wood says he would like to see Gibson reissue the Moderne again: āIāve sent many letters to them asking for another reissue. I doubt they will make it again. The guitar was ridiculed in 1957, and only sold 183 or so in the early ā80s. One guy I interviewed for the book said he was a member of the Gibson Custom Club, meaning that if you have enough money, theyāll pretty much make you anything you want, as long as it was based on a legitimate Gibson model. He asked for a Moderne and they couldnāt make him one.ā
Can We Get Some Forensics on this Thing?
Deciding to go to the experts, I contacted George Gruhn of Gruhn Guitars, Stan Jay of Mandolin Brothers, and Buzzy Levine of Lark Street Music.
George Gruhn commented, āI have never encountered any original Moderne guitar made prior to their so-called reissue in the early 1980s, nor have I ever had a conversation with anyone who claimed [to me] to have seen one. I have significant doubts that they were ever made.ā
Stan Jay said, āThe common wisdom is that Gibson had a patent on the Moderne. I see it as a fantasy-based instrument from the 1950s space age. It just didnāt take off. The Moderne is like the Sasquatch of the vintage guitar industry, or those fuzzy pictures you see of UFOs. You canāt really tell what they are. I think itās a wonderful thing to have some mystery. Every industry needs a mystery, and the Moderne is our mystery, our Sasquatch. The real story of the Moderne is the myth itself.ā
Buzzy Levine remarked, āThe only myth I know is that Billy Gibbons supposedly has one, but why hasnāt he shown it to anyone? Who wouldnāt want to make it public that he owned the rarest electric guitar ever made? If there were Modernes out there, they should have surfaced by now. I suppose there could have been one or two made.ā
I Want to Believe
As someone who has done his own Moderne research and generally enjoys the āthrill of the hunt,ā I would be remiss in not expressing my own opinion. I believe Billy Gibbonsā guitar is a copy, an Asian lookalikeāmaybe a prototype that got into this country, a custom guitar he had built, or perhaps a mongrel that contains some original Gibson parts. The headstock is the standard Les Paul or SG-style āopen book,ā not the āpaddlestockā of the original design. It would not be unlike Gibbons, a secretive man, to keep the guitar a mystery to perpetuate the myth, mystery and mojo of the Moderne.
Although I would like to believe thereās an original Moderne under a farmerās bed somewhere in rural USA, I honestly think one would have surfaced by now, given the vast common knowledge about rare guitars that exists today. Even pawnshop owners regularly refer to vintage guitar price guides, and I personally know several antique dealers in my area who are savvy about old guitars.
A verified, original Moderne would easily fetch seven figures. If I found one, it would most certainly go up on the block for sale. Finally, while I believe the Moderne did exist in prototype form, it seems most likely that all original examples were destroyed in the Gibson morgue by the early ā60s. At best, some of the parts may have been stolen out of the factory and reassembled into quasi-Modernes.
The bottom line: an original Moderne exists only in the minds of those who believe the myth, but admittedly, itās fun to believe otherwise and continue the hunt for the vintage guitar worldās Holy Grail.
For information on Glen Millerās Moderne, Explorer and Flying V replicas, visit: wronashouseofviolins.com.
For additional information on Ron Woodās book, Moderne: The Holy Grail of Vintage Guitars, go to: centerstream-usa.com.
[Updated 2/24/22]
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Hammett remains big daddy to the Mummy, one of his favorite instruments. It also evokes his love of classic horror films.
In a lavish new coffee table book from Gibson, The Collection: Kirk Hammett, Metallicaās lead guitarist shares some of his most spectacular vintage instruments and the stories that go with them, as well as his love of Hawaii.
Like his tone and fire-breathing technique, Kirk Hammettās guitar collection is legendary. Itās also in motionāand not just in the sense that guitars come in and out of Hammettās flotilla. He is keenly aware of all its core instruments and plays them in the studio and onstage when the occasion beckons.
For Hammett, having an armada of amazing vintage guitars at his convenience is a dream come trueāas it would be for any of us. āWhen I first started playing, I would go to the guitar store and all the vintage stuff was on the very top racks where you needed a ladder to get to them,ā he relates from his home in Hawaii. āI would stare up at these guitars that were literally untouchable and unattainable, but right in front of me. And I remember seeing a korina Flying V and thinking, āMy god, thatās the most beautiful Vā ā¦ thinking āitās so different from modern Vs, and it has so much class.ā Then, when I got my first korina V ā¦ I was so happy. I brought it down to the studio while we were recording Reload, and I said to [producer] Bob Rock, āI have to put this on a track.ā He goes, āOkay, plug it in.ā And itās on āFixxer.āā
More stories, and more photos of historic guitars, pack the new book The Collection: Kirk Hammett, from Gibson Publishing. The 400-page volume comes in three configurations. The 300 copies of the autographed custom edition ($799) checks in at 19" x 14 1/2" and comes in a case, with a portrait of Hammett signed by the guitarist and photographer Ross Halfin, plus a mini replica of Hammettās beloved 1979 Flying V, a tin with six of Hammettās signature Dunlop picks, and a certificate of authenticity. The deluxe edition ($299) has a run of 1,500 autographed copies and comes in a slipcase with GreenyāPeter Greenās legendary Les Paulāon the cover and a certificate of authenticity. And the standard edition ($149) will have greater availability.I asked Hammett if he knew how many guitars were in his collection. āI donāt like counting,ā he replied. That roughly translates into a lot! But he noted, āI have a core collection thatās about 35, 40 guitars that I play pretty regularly, and most of them are vintage and I just love them for whatever little discrepancy or uniqueness or customization they have. Then thereās a whole host of guitars I own because I needed them to play certain songs on tour, and people have a tendency to give me guitars, which I always thought was frustrating. I canāt say, āNo, I canāt take your guitar,ā because sometimes that is more insulting than anything else to a person. So over the years Iāve acquired guitars that I just donāt use. Iāve gotten rid of a lot of guitars anonymously, so thereās a lot of guitars out there in the market that I used to own that people donāt know I owned, and I love that.ā
And now, itās time for the Big Three. I asked Kirk which guitars in his collection are not the most famous or valuable, but closest to his heart.
1979 Gibson Flying V
Kirkās 1979 Flying V with his signature EMG pickups installed. āThat guitar that enabled me to flesh out the elements of my style of playing,ā he says.
Photo courtesy of The Collection: Kirk Hammett, Gibson Publishing
āMy 1979 black Flying V, that Iāve had ever since I was 16 or 17, is obviously very close to my heart,ā he says. āSome of the very first heavy riffs I ever wrote, I wrote on that guitar, like the ādie by my handā part of āCreeping Death.ā That came out of that guitar. I was sitting there when I was 17 years old in high school, and that riff came out, and I was thinking, āThat doesn't sound like anything thatās on FM radio right now. And I love it.ā And it was that guitar that enabled me to flesh out the elements of my style of playing. And so that guitar will always be very, very close to me.ā
The Mummy
Hammett remains big daddy to the Mummy, one of his favorite instruments. It also evokes his love of classic horror films.
Photo courtesy of The Collection: Kirk Hammett, Gibson Publishing
āThe Mummy guitar is very close to me, too, because when I got that guitar in 1995 or 1996, man, it was a triple threat. It looked fantastic, it played fantastic, and it sounded fantastic,ā observes Hammett. The guitar also features a legend taken from the poster for the 1932 film The Mummy, featuring Boris Karloff, reading, āIt comes to life!ā And indeed the 6-string did.
āI was like, āOkay. I think I have an extraordinary guitar in my hands right now.ā And I use the Mummy guitar just as much as I use Greeny in the studio.ā
Greeny
Kirk Hammett with the guitar he calls his Excalibur, Greeny, which was formerly owned by both Peter Green and Gary Moore. āAll I have to do is sit there with Greeny in my lap and the music comes,ā he says.
Photo courtesy of The Collection: Kirk Hammett, Gibson Publishing
So, what was it like for Hammett to have Greeny, which he purchased in 2014 after it was used by legends Peter Green and Gary Moore on a host of historic recordings, in his hands for the first time?
āIt was confusion,ā he offers, ābecause I knew that a bunch of major players had played Greeny and passed on it. And a couple of those major players were James Hetfield and Joe Bonamassaāpeople that I know love Gibson Les Paul Standards as much as I do, but for some reason or another, they passed on it. I was confused by that because when I played Greeny, within the first minute I was like, āOh my god, I think this is the guitar Iāve always been looking for, because it had so much mojo and so much tone and such a unique sound, and, of course, the history of it was not lost on me either. I thought, āWhy hasnāt anyone else bought this guitar? Iām buying it.ā I told the guy who was selling it, āYou're not getting this guitar back. Letās work out a deal. Iām going to hold onto it forever.ā I feel like I didnāt choose Greeny; Greeny chose me, and itās my Excalibur.ā
Itās had such a big impact on me, and I wasnāt expecting it. All I have to do is sit there with Greeny in my lap and the music comes. It is a beautiful, wonderful thing. I used to have to really work hard at composing music and making music parts fit, but not anymore. With Greeny, stuff just comes to me spontaneously, and if it doesnāt work, I just move on, because more stuff comes.
āIt had a large, large, large part in helping me recognize the power of inspiration in myself. It had played the most amazing songs and the most amazing shows before me. So to have it in my hands itās like, I donāt want to say a separate entity, but almost like a freaking partner in music. Iām so thankful, and so lucky.ā
On Creating the Book
āIt was my idea to do the book,ā Kirk explains. āIāve been wanting to do a guitar book, because I did a book about my horror movie poster collection about 10 years ago. And man, that was so much freaking work, but it was worth it. And it opened up a whole range of opportunities I never thought or I could never see coming. I'm hoping that the same thing happens with this book. I have no idea what those opportunities are, but I'm hoping that they're great musical opportunities.
āI hope this book inspires people to just go out and look in pawn shops, go over to their grandmotherās house, look under the bed and in the closet; look into the attic. Because thereās a lot of vintage guitars still out there that have not been found. I mean, when you think about the production of electric guitars, how many were produced from 1952 on, of all models? Thatās a shitload of guitars that absolutely have not been accounted for in the vintage market. You just got to do the hard work and be lucky as fuck. Things can be found.ā
Hammett feels the book not only echoes the inspiration and passion he has for guitars, but also for his adopted home of Hawaii. āThese guitars are beautiful. Theyāre unique. Some of them are one of a kind, and I love that. They are also the tools that are in my toolbox. But this book is also a love letter to Hawaii. Itās the place where I love to be with my guitarsāa beautiful backdrop to these wonderful guitars.ā In fact, the Hawaiian landscape is often the setting in which Halfin photographed Hammett and his collection. Ross and I didnāt want this to look like a catalog or your average coffee table book that you would see in freaking a doctorās office or a hotel lobby or something. We wanted the approach to be a little bit more homegrown. And for me, I like being outdoors all the time. I might go inside to sleep at night, but usually from the time I get up, even at night, Iām just outside. The landscape and sky and ocean here is always gorgeous and always changing.ā
The Sequel
Hammett mentions that another guitar tome might be on the horizon. āI have at least three or four essential guitars that didnāt make it into this book,ā he says. āThey need to make it into a second book, just as relevant, just as rare, just as unique. And people have not seen them. I have a Les Paul thatās so rareāa Mickey Baker Les Paul Iād been seeking for 10 years. In 1956 or 1957, Mickey Baker, the jazz session guy who had a big hit with āLove Is Strangeā ā¦ Gibson wanted to make him a Mickey Baker model. They made less than 10 prototypes and never put them out, because Mickey never liked any of āem. Theyāre unique because they have three pickups and instead of four knobs, there are threeāall master volumes. At the top where the pickup selector is, is another knob and itās a master tone. People need to see that guitar! It has not quite the aggression and attack that Greeny has, but the fullness and the freaking kick and the punch.ā
Thereās also a custom-color ā57 goldtop and other rarities that didnāt make The Collection, but thereās plenty of eye candy in the current book. Provided, of course, youāre interested in a ā52 goldtop, a ā58 sunburst Les Paul, a korina V prototype, a ā60 TV Special, the ESP KH-1 Joker, and other gems.
āIām a caretaker for these guitars, and especially for Greeny,ā Hammett says. āAt some point, itāll be time to redistribute these magical instruments. Guitars are invincible. Look at guitars from the ā50s. Theyāre holding up and playing better than ever. Guitars were made to last forever. They donāt break down like cars. They donāt degrade like artwork. Maybe they do, but the upkeep is easy and you can interact with them. Greeny, especially, is like a magic wand. I feel very, very lucky, and I hope that I play Greeny for a nice length of time.ā
Drew Berlin, left, and Alexander Dumble, right, first met in the early ā70s through luthier Jim Foote. āWithin an hour or so, I went and got one of my amps from home, and he modded it for me. And that started the relationship,ā remembers Berlin.
Drew Berlin talks about what it takes to preserve the legacy of Dumbleāand how that might involve building a few new amps.
For guitarists, the name Dumble conjures awe, wonder, critique, devotion, myth, and plenty of conjectureāall of it understandable. The late Howard āAlexanderā Dumbleās namesake amps are akin to the vaults of Fort Knox: We know they exist, weāve heard tales of their unimaginable treasure, but few have, or ever will, experience them firsthand.
The mystery stems from how Mr. Dumble kept a tight-knit circle of friends he trusted with his amplifiers. Thatās why, when he passed in 2022, many wondered what would become of his builds, designs, and company. Fortunately, Dumble had a plan and entrusted the keys to his kingdom to two of his closest friends: Drew Berlin and Matt Swanson.
Judging by Berlinās rĆ©sumĆ©, the brand is in good hands. An early adopter of the amplifiers as a professional guitarist, he even helped Dumble voice many of them. But beyond the Dumble sphere, he is a titan of the vintage guitar gear community. As one half of the famed āBurst Brothers,ā he was key in shaping Guitar Centerās early vintage program and still deals in some of historyās most priceless, sought-after, and collectible guitars and amps.
Berlinās connection to Dumble was far more personal. From the day they first met until Dumbleās passing, their friendship centered on caring for each other, whether that meant amp modifications or healthcare. Berlin was a constant presence.
āI even had a deal with my wife where, if I wasnāt home by midnight, sheād call Mr. Dumble,ā he said with a chuckle. āHe was so charming. Heād sweet-talk her: āOh yes, Diane. Drewās here, and weāre getting a lot done. Heās really helping, so Iāll need him a bit longer.ā And sheād say, āOkay.ā [laughs] That went on for 20 years.āHereās āWoody,ā a Dumble Special that was often used to āauditionā potential customers. Itās a single-channel design that has beautiful, smooth compression. And like many of Dumbleās amp designs, thereās nowhere to hide.
At 74, Berlinās love and devotion to Dumble and his amps remain unwavering. While many are lucky to glimpse one in person, he owns several, still gigging them regularly. More crucially, he and Swanson own the brandās name and trademark, a job he takes very seriously setting up the Dumble Preservation Society to safeguard everything, service existing Dumble amplifiers, and, though he didnāt know it at the time, build new ones.
But before anyone questions his motives, itās vital to understand where Berlin is coming from. His passion for the amps and profound devotion to his friend and the legacy he left was even visible over our video call from his California recording studio. Every decision he makes balances protecting the legacy with navigating the future, and is always guided by the question, āWhat would Mr. Dumble have wanted?ā
Thankfully, if anyone can answer that, itās Berlin. And he was generous enough to share why that is with us.
How did you and Mr. Dumble first meet?
I knew about Dumble and the tone in the early ā70s, and I started becoming more and more familiar with it, of course, through Jackson Browne, David Lindley, and Stevie Ray Vaughan. Because of that, and being that I was āthe vintage guy,ā a mutual friend, Jim Foote, thought that it would be interesting for Mr. Dumble to meet me.
He set up an appointment, and Dumble came in with a small Special called āWoody,ā which we actually just displayed at NAMM. I plugged into the amp and started playing, and we started talking. Within an hour or so, I went and got one of my amps from home, and he modded it for me. And that started the relationship.
It began with gear, but it seems your friendship grew into something much deeper.
You know, it absolutely did. He was brilliant, and we had a lot in common beyond music. So, I started trying to be there for him as much as possible, sometimes like eight or 10 hours at a time, day after day after day.
Pretty soon, it was hard for him to get around, so I found a vehicle for him and was able to help him out. I felt really honored to be able to do that, because I was getting such great advice from him, and he was really intelligent on so many levels. My family even did a lot of outings together where we included him as part of the family. He loved my children, so they grew up knowing him as Uncle Alexander.
Given your close connection to both the man and his amplifiers, what would you say defines the āmagicā of his amplifiers?
He liked to say that the frequencies were enhanced, and there were more highs, more lows, more mids. It was a blossoming of frequencies. Most of his amps were touch-sensitive, so if you dug in harder, it would change the tone. You could express more, and notes would do different things.
But as far as for me, it's more than just something that you hear. When you're playing it, the expression that you're able to create, it's something you feel in your chest, in your heart. And I like that they never hurt. Some amp tones are irritating and hurt your ears, especially if it's too loud. Dumbles never did. The louder, the better.
At first glance, this would appear to be a Special, but in 1989 Dumble modified it to be a 150-watt Steel String Singer for Stevie Ray Vaughan while his SSS was in for repairs.
Players often point to the Steel String Singerās cleans and the Overdrive Specialās distortion. Did Dumble approach those as separate designs, or did he see a unifying thread in his creations?
It was very important for him to be really happy with the way the amp sounded in the clean, lush mode before you kick in the overdrive.
The way he explained it, it starts in the power section of an amplifier. It needs to be clean, powerful, and warm. Then you get a really warm, clean, lush sound and add the overdrive section to that. Getting that right is more challenging than the overdrive section. The overdrive was a balance of how much crunch you wanted and how much sustain. So that was secondary.
There are rumors of the incredible time he took building each amp and how particular he was about every detail. Are they true?
Yes. And he liked to do everything himself. He never let anyone even touch a build that he was working on. I understand now more than I did, as far as how difficult and how time-consuming that was.
He would change out 20, 30, 40, or 50 parts on an amp. It would take forever. And then after he finally came up with the right combination, the artists would come over and play it. If it wasnāt quite what they wanted, heād go back to the drawing board. And it took several tries, in some cases, to get the amp exactly where the artist and Mr. Dumble both agreed was the right sound.
Then heād have to make sure that it was roadworthy before he would send it out on the road.
āSome amp tones are irritating and hurt your ears, especially if it's too loud. Dumbles never did. The louder, the better.ā
How did he sustain that level of commitment and detail throughout his career?
Well, the amps were so complex, there were so many stages, and thereās so many different variances that it did become overwhelming towards the end of his life. He stopped making Steel String Singers and Overdrive Reverbs a long time ago because they were too much work. There were 11 Steel String Singers, and I think 12 Overdrive Reverbs were made. But he stuck with the Overdrive Specials. He had some health issues on and off through the years, so he did the best he could.
Did you and Dumble ever discuss your role in the future of his brand?
Well, we talked about it. My partner, Matt Swanson, and I were left to protect Dumble, his legacy, and his intellectual property. And a lot of people showed interest in wanting to take the Dumble name. The trademark was expiring and we had to act.
Thatās when we started the Dumble Preservation Society. We offer amp service with the right schematics and parts. We have two techs. One was a close friend of Dumbleās that he personally approved, and the other is incredibly passionate and skilled. Since Dumble passed, weāve serviced over 50 of his amps.
Matt Swanson (left) and Drew Berlin set up the Dumble Preservation Society to safeguard the brand, service existing Dumble amplifiers, and, though they didnāt know it at the time, build new ones.
Was your initial focus just to maintain the amps heād already built?
That, and honoring his legacy. Thereās so much he created that you hear all the time on records, in movies, on the radio. His sound is everywhere. Itās important for people to understand what he did. The Preservation Society stems from that: keeping awareness of his tone and his genius, servicing amps, and secondarily, building them.
What led you to start building new Dumble amps?About six to eight months into his passing, we found out that in order to keep the trademark, we had to actually manufacture and sell something. Thatās when I made the decision. It wasnāt about profit. It was either do it ourselves or let someone else take it. He left us in charge for a reason, and he trusted our judgment.
Whoās building the new amps?
There are two guys, who don't want recognition. They donāt think itās important, and I respect that. One is someone Iāve known and trusted for 35 years. Heās an incredible technician who was very close to Dumble. He told me he had promised Dumble he wouldnāt use any of the knowledge Dumble had shared with him to build amps. I said, āI understand that, but would you rather have people who didnāt know Dumble, werenāt connected to him, and arenāt trying to preserve his legacy do this? Or would you rather help us do whatās necessary?ā He agreed.
Another is a friend who Iāve known for at least 20 to 25 years. Heās an amp repair tech whoās incredibly knowledgeable and passionate about Dumble amps. When things needed to be done and Dumble couldnāt do them himself, this was one of the only guys he ever trusted with anything.
Youāve mentioned several close associates deeply connected to and influenced by Dumble. Itās like he was building his company the whole time.
Youāre right. He kind of was. I donāt think it was chance that he put us together.
I had been taking care of him for years, and he and Matt became great friends. One day, Dumble pulled him and me aside and said, āDrew, I really appreciate everything youāve done, but I think moving forward, youāre going to need Mattās help.ā
I think he understood that we would need to work together to keep his legacy alive. Iām really grateful because I couldnāt have accomplished a lot without Matt. Together, weāve kept the Dumble name alive and treasured, and thatās what we wanted to do.
One of Dumbleās biggest supporters was Carlos Santana, who owned several Dumble amps over the years.
With the new amps now emerging, what can players anticipate from this next chapter?
I wish I could answer that, but Iām not sure where weāre going in the future or how weāre doing it. I can tell you, the few that weāve made were very time consuming, as if Mr. Dumble did it himself: hand-cutting the boards, everything done by hand, the parts being as close as possible to what Mr. Dumble was using. Weāre trying to get the sound as close as possible, to where you donāt just hear it, you feel it.
Right now, itās just a handful of players, the Dumble family, in a way. I helped screen people for Mr. Dumble that I thought were great players and great people, people worthy of his amps. Itās still got to be like that. So, right now, weāre working with a few of Mr. Dumbleās favorite players, giving them some amplifiers and trying to tweak them the way he would have.
Are you adhering closely to Dumbleās original designs with these new builds?
Weāre not trying to reinvent the wheel right now. Weāre happy if we can get our amps sounding really close to what Mr. Dumble did. We're not trying to enhance or come up with new ideas for them, at least not at this point.
For those whoāve played the new amps, whatās been their reaction so far?
Well, the first one we did has already been on a couple of sessions. It went to a really talented pro player, and weāve heard nothing but good things. And, a couple of weeks ago, I had a session where I brought one of the amps we had at NAMM. I have several Dumbles I use, and I kind of forgot that it wasnāt one of mine.
Itās exciting to have people playing them, wanting them, and wanting to take them on the road and record with them. Seeing guys I really respect, players, producers, and people making records really like it gives me confidence. The magic that Mr. Dumble had, his ears, his musical talent, his experience in electronics, I donāt see anyone else having that combination.
You stayed out of the design and building process during his lifetime. How do you think that shapes your perspective for what youāre doing now?
Now that weāve done this, I feel like maybe it would have been better for him if I had pushed a little harder to let people help him when he was alive. He just wanted to do everything himself. I really appreciate that about him, but I never pushed him to say, āLet me help you.ā I helped him in other ways, but I never got involved in building amps or letting others help him.
As both a fan and a friend, where do you hope to see the Dumble brand head in the future?
I wish I could give you an exact response, but I donāt know fully right now. This is still new for me, and Iām not sure where itās going or how Iām going to feel about it.
I do know that as long as the brand is respected, Iāll be okay with it. If people could understand that Dumble did this from his heart. He had the magic to give people something to create with, and thatās what he lived for. He wanted to give artists a tool to help them become better musicians. As long as I can help carry that forward, I feel like Iām doing something useful.
Rafiq Bhatiaās guitar is a Flip Scipio Flippercaster with vintage Teisco and DeArmond pickups and has a strikingly original voice, even without effects or processing.
The Son Lux guitaristāand David Lynch aficionadoāsays an experimental musician needs creative uncertainty, that an artist must be curious, and should ask questions in the process of creating sound. With the release of his new EP, Each Dream, A Melting Door, he breaks down the methods and philosophies he practices in his own work.
āIt feels like a lifetime ago, but yes,ā experimental guitarist/composer Rafiq Bhatia says when I bring up that he studied neuroscience and economics in college. Today, Bhatia is far more defined by his musical careerāprimarily with his band Son Lux, which also composed the Oscar-nominated score for 2022ās Everything Everywhere All at Once. However, he shares that there is an intersection between these seemingly disparate fields.
āWhere [neuroscience and economics] intersect is the science of decision making,ā explains Bhatia. Back when he was a new student at Oberlin College, āthe lab that I was the most interested in being a part of was focused on decision making under various levels of risk and uncertainty, and trying to pick apart aspects of what happens in the brain before cognition kicks in. What are the precognitive aspects of decision making, and do they predict in any way the decisions that you will actually make?
āAnd that, I think, is part of the same underlying spirit of inquiry that making music, and especially improvised music with other people, is born of,ā he continues. āYouāre in these situations where there is uncertainty and there is also riskāand if thereās not enough risk, then itās not that compelling.ā
Bhatiaās latest solo releaseāhis first in five yearsāis the EP Each Dream, A Melting Door, made in collaboration with pianist Chris Pattishall. The duo improvise their way through the five-track record, unwinding an extended impressionistic world wherein dreamlike piano underscores a range of guitar tones that glimmer in an abstract light. Itās clear that Bhatia has no intention of conveying a traditional sonic image of a guitar, instead preferring to manipulate the instrument as a device for painting colors of sound.
Bhatiaās collaborator on his new EP is pianist and composer Chris Pattishall, at left.
Photo by Ebru Yildiz
Of course, before even getting into the methods of how he achieves those sounds, Bhatia says, āI think itās less important how I get the sounds out of the guitar than the reasons why I might choose to go looking for them. And the way I get them out of the guitar today might be drastically different than the way I get them out of the guitar tomorrow. I care deeply about the sounds that are made, but Iām so not about the perception that you have to acquire all these āthingsā to make it.ā
His prized 6-string, the Flippercaster, was designed by the reclusive-yet-storied luthier Flip Scipio, whoās built and worked on guitars and basses for Paul McCartney, Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, and many others. After coming to recognize Scipioās trademark on builds he came across in various New York studios, Bhatia sought him out in an effort he compares to the search for the legendary swordsmith, Hattori HanzÅ, in Kill Bill. āHeās the nicest dude ever; it just took me a while to find him. But if you go visit him, heāll make you either an amazing AeroPress coffee or a mug of smoky lapsang tea and then sit and talk with you,ā Bhatia adds, smiling.
The guitar is equipped with vintage Teisco and DeArmond pickups wired to a blend knob in place of a switch, which Bhatia loves. āI usually donāt want half and half; I want a little bit of one and mostly all of the other. And to me itās very dependent on what the room sounds like and what musical context Iām in,ā he explains. The Flippercaster goes into a small pedalboard, the brain of which is a custom Eventide H90. Bhatia collaborated with the pedal manufacturer on the development of the deviceās design.
The duo improvise their way through the five-track record, unwinding an extended impressionistic world wherein dreamlike piano underscores a range of guitar tones that glimmer in an abstract light.
āI was really excited,ā Bhatia shares. āI was like, āCan you make it switch other pedals in and out of the chain like one of those pedalboard controllers? And letās say Iām using one of your reverbs, but I want to put distortion on it. Can you make it only affect the wet signal?ā I thought theyād maybe do 10 percent of what I asked, and they did basically all of it,ā he concludes, laughing.
Aside from his expression and volume pedals, his pedalboard is otherwise made up of a Klon KTR and a ZVEX Fat Fuzz Factory, the latter of which he has particular fun with. āIām very jealous of saxophone players because they have breath,ā he prefaces. āBut what Iāve found is that if you play in such a way where you flirt with the edge of the [Fat Fuzz Factoryās built-in] gate, you can get the ends of notes to crackle and decay, almost like when you hear a saxophone player breathe out at the end of the note.ā
His pedalboard then goes through a Universal Audio Apollo Twin MkII interface, which connects to Ableton Live on his MacBook Pro. Bhatia then uses two MIDI controllersāone on the floor with a digital display, and one with knobs that he controls with his left handāthat are both color-coded to match the lanes of his session in the DAW. āI can then grab these little bits of things that Iām playing, and bring them in and out and manipulate them while Iām also playing the guitar and generating other ones. Iām excited about it because itās a process that is helping me erase the line between what Iāve been doing on the guitar and what Iāve been doing away from the guitar. I feel like Iām getting a little bit closer to where I can play, and the sound is saying who I am.ā
Rafiq Bhatiaās Gear
Filmmaker David Lynch has been a powerful influence on Bhatiaāa cover of āThe Voice of Love,ā from Lynchās Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me, appears at the end of Each Dream, A Melting Doorāas have a number of hip-hop producers and jazz musicians.
Photo by John Klukas
Guitars
- 2018 Flip Scipio Flippercaster with vintage Teisco and DeArmond pickups
Amps
Live:
- Strymon Iridium (with replaced IRs and EQ tweaks) > Telefunken TDA-2 DI > Universal Audio Apollo Twin MkII > MacBook Pro running Ableton Live > FOH
Studio:
- Swart Atomic Space Tone Pro
- Anderson custom 1x12
- Swart Space Tone Atomic Jr.
Effects
- Ableton Live controlled by Morningstar MC6 PRO and DJ TechTools Midi Fighter Twister
- Eventide H90
- ZVEX Fat Fuzz Factory
- Klon KTR Overdrive
- Lehle Dual Expression
- Sound Sculpture Volcano Volume
Strings & Picks
- DāAddario NYXL Balanced Tension (.011ā.050)
- Bluebird 1.5 mm custom picks, handmade from vintage Galalith poker chips
Filmmaker David Lynch has been a powerful influence on Bhatiaāa cover of āThe Voice of Love,ā from Lynchās Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me, appears at the end of Each Dream, A Melting Doorāas have a number of hip-hop producers and jazz musicians. Bhatia shares, āIf you listen to Madlib beats, sometimes heās doing a lot and itās a million different small elements that have been collaged together, but other times itās just a sample that he flipped and he didnāt change anything except for the loop point. But whether itās something he made while fussing over all these little ingredients, or itās just something he looped, you hear two seconds of it and itās like, āOh, thatās Madlib.āā
He mentions how that effect similarly belongs to icons such as Thelonious Monk and Jimi Hendrix. āThose are all the heroes, and they say something thatās so personal and honest to who they are and their experience that right away, you just know [snaps fingers]āitās them. To me it sounds like honesty, and it sounds like an expression in many cases of hybridity.
āI was in class in 9th grade when the planes hit the Twin Towers, and it was on our school news channel,ā he continues, emphasizing the discomfort it created for him as someone of Muslim origin, which drew unwanted speculation from his non-Muslim peers. āThat was the backdrop to how I got into playing the guitar and listening to music. So, when I would hear folks who seemed to be able to take all these different aspects of who they were and what their experience was and distill it into a way of communicating through sound, that was really inspiring. It just felt like therapy to engage in trying to figure out how to do that.ā
For the release of his last solo album, Breaking English, Bhatia performs here with a trio, showcasing his uniquely creative approach on the instrument in a more traditional context.