Tom Petty’s righthand man proved time and again that he could get to the heart of the matter and find the perfect guitar part for a song.
Tom Petty’s right-hand man proved time and again that he could get to the heart of the matter and find the perfect guitar part for a song. But he’s also cooked up plenty of hits as a player and writer for artists such as Don Henley—with whom he co-wrote two of his biggest hits—Stevie Nicks, Roy Orbison, Matthew Sweet, Brian Setzer, and so many others. Plus, his Blue Stingrays and Dirty Knobs are like candy for the deepest of guitar-tone nerds.
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Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers’ lead guitarist shows Shifty how he bottled an electric reaction to “The Waiting” on the song’s simple, iconic solo.
Mike Campbell knows how to write the perfect parts to a song, and records them with the perfect guitar, amp, and tone to match. That’s why Shifty has the Heartbreakers’ lead man on this episode to get a look under the hood at what drives Campbell’s solo on “The Waiting.”
The song, from 1981’s Hard Promises, was tracked at Sound City, where Campbell recalls the band had “every amp in the world lined up across the room, every amp you can imagine.” After miking and testing each, Campbell says they settled on a Fender Twin, which he brought to life with a white Les Paul he got from a pawn shop. Shifty notes the song’s music video led him to believe the solo was tracked with a Rickenbacker, but Campbell snickers that it was just for show: “I did that different just to fuck people up,” he grins. (“I hate that video, I think I look like a total idiot,” he adds.)
Campbell, who started playing guitar by ear at 16 on an “unplayable” Harmony acoustic, says he didn’t labor over the solo for “The Waiting,” favoring spontaneity and instinct instead. “I like to come in fresh and capture as I’m discovering what it is, there’s some electricity in that moment,” he explains. “The listener can hear that you’re discovering it as they’re discovering it at the same time.” That approach applies to his songwriting experience in general, too: “I don't even wanna talk about it too much, because its mysterious,” he says. “It comes to you when it wants to.”
Later, Campbell lays out how he and Petty balanced their guitar parts, and why Campbell favored “droning” open notes over complexity for many of his leads. And stick around to hear how he figured out Lindsay Buckingham’s guitar parts for Fleetwood Mac’s 2018 tour, the difficulty of backing Bob Dylan, and why original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch almost got in a fight with Johnny Rotten.
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Country guitarist Jesse Dayton joins editors and reader Phillip Smith to speak on influential players who don’t get the credit they deserve.
Question: Which 20th-century guitarist doesn’t get enough credit for their influence?
Jesse Dayton
A: The 20th-century guitarist I pick for not getting enough credit would have to be Hank Garland. Others like Link Wray and Cliff Gallup, even up to Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck, are all very well-documented, but Hank Garland was a huge influence on all these guys! He was a monster studio-session guitarist who played on more hit songs in rock ’n’ roll, country, jazz, blues—you name it—than anyone in history.
Current obsession: My current musical obsession is this particular East Texas blues-guitar style called “droning,” started by Blind Lemon Jefferson, then passed on to Mance Lipscomb and Lightin’ Hopkins. They keep the open root string resonating (whatever key it is—could be the E or A string tuned down to D) while they play lead. If you want to try something new to make your guitar parts sound big and full, listen to these recordings and try it out!
Charles Saufley Gear Editor
A: Though a giant, I think the way Roger McGuinn’s style lives in so many songs written to this day makes him every bit as influential as many more extroverted and flamboyant players. Respect, too, to Vini Reilly, Maurice Deebank, Gabor Szabo and the other quiet, melodic, and restrained 20th-century stylists that may yet have great influence in this century.
Current obsession: I planted my garden a little more densely this year with colliding colors and textures. Perhaps that reflects an obsession with contrast. Contrast, quiet, melody, and restraint. That’s where my musical mind is these days.
Nick Millevoi Senior Editor
A: It would be hard to overstate Robert Quine’s influence. Known mostly for his work with Richard Hell, Lou Reed, Tom Waits, John Zorn, and a host of others, his playing—incisive but sensitive and nuanced, well-rooted but iconoclastic—caused ripples throughout the landscape of punk, rock ’n’ roll, power pop, and the avant-garde. But Quine’s still essentially an underground figure, and there are plenty of lessons in his playing still to be learned.
Current obsession: I’ve been engrossed in Dan LeRoy’s new book Dancing to the Drum Machine: How Electronic Percussion Conquered the World. It’s a deeply fun, well-constructed journey through an important and fascinating part of musical history, fit for gear nerds. The chapters on Roger Linn’s creations alone are worth the cover price. Bonus: My summer playlist has been expertly curated.
Phillip Smith Reader of the Month
A: James Gurley from Big Brother and the Holding Company is the first name which comes to mind when it comes to underrated guitarists whose influence runs deep. Gurley’s imprint on psychedelic rock has been enormous. Listen to “Summertime” from Big Brother’s 1968 release Cheap Thrills, and let it speak for itself.
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Current obsession: I’ve been listening to deFrance a lot. Led by Drew deFrance, the band’s musical stylings have a strong Tom Petty influence. I had the opportunity to catch deFrance perform in concert a few weeks ago at a music festival in Newport, Arkansas. They were tight as hell, and sounded great.