A 6-string legend gets back to blues-rock basics in a new album with wife Dale Krantz, and shares the recipe for his fat, classic Les Paul sound.
A cat on its ninth life would be wise to trade places with Gary Rossington. The seemingly invincible Lynyrd Skynyrd guitarist and cofounder has triumphed over catastrophe numerous times—including one of the most famous disasters in rock history. In 1977, just three days after the release of Street Survivors, a tragic plane crash put the kibosh on the band’s meteoric rise and took the lives of members Ronnie Van Zant, Steve Gaines, and Cassie Gaines, and assistant road manager Dean Kilpatrick, among others. Rossington emerged from the rubble with two broken arms, a broken leg and pelvis, and a punctured stomach and liver, yet miraculously lived. He’s also endured whiskey-and Quaalude-induced car wrecks, quadruple bypass surgery, and several heart attacks, including one in October 2015 and one this past summer.
As the last original member still touring under the Lynyrd Skynyrd banner, Rossington continues along the route he, singer Ronnie Van Zant, and their friends set out on in 1964 as if he’s on a crusade to keep the dream alive. “All these years later, ‘Freebird’ and some of these songs have taken on an anthem-like feel,” says Rossington. “Everybody yells out ‘Freebird’ or ‘Sweet Home Alabama.’ I’m the only one left that gets to tell about it.”
In addition to his legacy with Skynyrd, Rossington has been part of other projects throughout the decades. Two years after the plane crash, he and Allen Collins, another of the founders, formed the Rossington-Collins band. To avoid accusations of being a Skynyrd knockoff, they brought in Dale Krantz, who had previously opened for Skynyrd as a singer with 38 Special. Rossington and Krantz fell in love making music together and eventually got married. After the Rossington-Collins band disbanded in 1982, the Rossington Band, featuring Rossington and Krantz, formed.
When Lynyrd Skynyrd reunited in 1987, Rossington and Krantz were back in the fold, where they’ve remained. (By then Collins was paralyzed from the waist down, due to an alcohol-fueled car wreck. He died in 1990.) And now, almost 30 years later, they’ve released a new album called Take It on Faith. This time, there’s no band. The album is simply credited to Rossington. And, in fact, the guitar legend explains that the songs were recorded seven or eight years ago and awaited release. For the sessions, producer David Z (Etta James, Buddy Guy, Prince) chose a diverse group of studio musicians—including Jack Holder on guitar, Bruce McCabe on keys, David Smith on bass, and Richie Hayward on drums—to lay down a foundation that would bring Rossington’s vision of a blues-tinged rock album to life. Notably, Holder and Hayward—also legends of Southern rock—died before the album was released.
Rossington, who has otherwise always recorded with bands, says making Take It on Faith was a new experience for him. “A band goes in, works together, and kind of tries to change things here and there,” he says. “We just went in there and showed these studio guys the songs real quick—sang it once—and then they went out into the studio, and, bang, it was there. It was so cool.”
Nonetheless, fans of his big-boned guitar work will be pleased. The title track features his elegant slide playing on acoustic guitar, and his keening bends, recognizable from decades of recorded and live Skynyrd performances, shine through on Krantz’ vocal showcase “I Should’ve Known.” Ditto the pinch harmonics that decorate the rocker “Good Side of Good” and recall his stellar opening and solo on the classic Skynyrd smoker “That Smell.”
On a break from Lynyrd Skynyrd’s still-busy touring schedule, Rossington talked about creating the new album, his love for Gibson Les Paul Standards, and his basic-but-effective recipe for achieving his classic sound.
What inspired Take It on Faith?
We decided to do meet-and-greets with Skynyrd every night, and a lot of the fans kept asking if Dale would ever sing or do another album. So we did it for the fans from the Rossington-Collins Band days, and everybody seems to like it. We’re very happy.
I understand the writing process for Take It on Faith goes back a decade?
Yeah. We always write songs here and there. We can’t stop ourselves. [Laughs.] We wrote some of them and we took some of them from our producer, who helped us pick a few songs. It came together real quick.
When you revisited the previously written material, did you make any major revisions?
Nah. Most of them were blues songs, and blues never changes. You can play blues from way back in the day until now. We just started writing two or three blues tunes, and we had a few in mind that we thought were great that we didn’t write. We figured a blues album would be fun, but then we went more rhythm and blues, and picked a few other songs that weren’t hard blues … or I don’t know what style you’d call it, but it was different than the blues.
Do you prefer old-school recording methods or today’s hard-drive-based approach?
We just did it with tape—analog, you know? Put down a basic, overdubbed a little bit, and “boom,” there it was. For blues, that’s the best way. But we did a little Pro Tools for tuning up things and moving things and this and that. Pro Tools and computer stuff nowadays, I don’t understand all of that, but my engineers did and that was real good.
Gary Rossington and Dale Krantz recorded their just-released album with a crew of studio veterans, including fellow Southern rock heroes Richie Hayward, a cofounder of Little Feat, and former Black Oak Arkansas guitarist Jack Holder.
On all of the album’s ripping solos, you still seem to be focused on maintaining the integrity of the songs—never overplaying. That’s impressive considering how much free reign you can have with overdubs.
I try. That’s coming from Skynyrd and trying not to overplay over everybody. Back in the day we had three guitars and a keyboard, so that’s all strings. It’s hard to get all those strings together, and the hardest part, is not playing. Growing up, we learned where not to play. Even though you could play, you leave the space and room. That’s cool, too.
“I Should’ve Known” alternates between two feels. How did you come up with that?
It’s just different tempos. The song lent itself to being played fast or slow. A lot of songs, when you’re writing or playing them, you play them a little faster at rehearsal and it sounds good that way, too. So I just put it together—the first verse is slow and the next verse is fast. It seemed to work out. There’s a few songs like that I’ve heard throughout the years, and it was kind of fun, having two tempos in one song.
Was that tricky to record?
Nah, man. It’s on beat. When it picks up the beat, just jump on and hang on. It’s not that hard once you’re going.
Gary Rossington’s Gear
Guitars
• Gibson Custom Shop Gary Rossington Les Paul
• Gibson Custom Shop Les Paul Standard
• Gibson Custom Shop ES-335
• Fender Eric Clapton Stratocaster
• Fender Telecaster (customized by late Skynyrd guitar tech Gary Smalley)
• National resonator
• Gretsch Tennessean
Amps
• Peavey Mace 100-watt head
• Peavey 4x12 cabinet with JBL 120F speakers
• Fender Prosonic Amplifier
Strings and Accessories
• D’Addario NYXLs (.009–.042)
• D’Addario medium gauge-mixed strings for the National
• Mel Bay green light nylon contoured picks
• Score Marketing Coricidin bottle
• Buffalo Straps custom leather strap
Tell us about Billy Gibbons’ involvement on “Good Side of Good.”
Well, he didn’t play on it. I played all the guitar there. But he cowrote the song. We’ve toured with him throughout the years, and became friends. We just love him. He lives right in Texas, and there’s some guy [Tom Vickers] he writes with. They sent us one song, and it just seemed to fit our feel. It’s got a little blues feel to it. It’s just got a weird sound on it and there’s a piano, too. On that particular song, I used my Les Paul, the one I always use. When I went to the studio I also took a Strat, a Gretsch Tennessean, a Telecaster, an ES-335… hopefully to get a different sound than Skynyrd.
Even with all those axes, you’re ultimately a Les Paul guy, aren’t you?
I always use Les Pauls. With Skynyrd, I always used my ’59 Les Paul the whole time until 1977. I just use reissue Les Paul Standards now. They’re still old and good.
Are you still using the Les Paul that we looked at in our 2011 Rig Rundown that was damaged in the 2010 Nashville flood and restored by RS Guitarworks in Kentucky?
I use that one sometimes. It’s real, real heavy. The newer ones are lighter, and they still sound great if you get them all tuned up.
How would you describe the perfect Les Paul?
To me, it’s the Les Paul Standard. Humbucking pickups are great. I love the warm tones that you can get, and if you turn the treble up really high on the amp, you can get kind of a Fender sound, too, with a Les Paul. But you can’t get a Les Paul sound with a Fender. I always liked Gibson—really because of Keith Richards and Brian Jones. Way back when I was learning to play, they had Les Pauls. I saw them on The Red Skelton Show and I just fell in love with that guitar.
What about amps?
I’ve used a Peavey Mace throughout my whole career, really, even in the early days back in the ’70s. But we also use Marshalls. Peavey and Marshalls, to me, sound pretty similar if you get them side-by-side. The Peavey seems to carry out into the crowd more, and have that tone even 100 feet out, whereas the Marshall seems to get a little tinny when you get out front.
What do you use for gain—the amp or pedals?
I just use the amp, but put the preamp up high and the regular volume down, so it’s dirty. If you turn the guitar volume knob, like, halfway down, it’s a lot cleaner. That’s what I do, I play all my rhythms on 4 or 5, and for leads, I just crank it up and it gets that bite.
Can a guitar with the volume rolled-off get clean enough for something like, say, the intros to “Simple Man” or “Sweet Home Alabama?”
Yeah, but actually that’s a Stratocaster doing that “Sweet Home Alabama” intro. Sparky [Mark Matejka], our guitar player now, does it, and it was Ed King that started it. I play the little lick right after. So there’s a Fender sound and a Les Paul sound.
You’ve got other guitars throughout the album. It sounds like a 12-string on “Where Did Love Go?” and a dobro on “Take It on Faith.”
Yeah, I played dobro on “Take It on Faith” and “Something Fishy,” and a couple of songs here and there. I just love that. I wish I could’ve played it more, but we didn’t record that much. We only did it in a few weeks. The studio cats were so good they put down one or two tracks a day, and we just went in and overdubbed on them—played some lead, and “bang,” we’re done.
There was a 12-string and an acoustic up front on “Where Did Love Go?” and we kind of brought it down a lot so it doesn’t sound real twangy. I just played slide on that song. Wayne Perkins wrote it and it’s a beautiful song. He’s a good friend of mine from Alabama.
Will you tour with Dale to support Take It on Faith?
We haven’t planned it yet. If it calls for it, or we get some offers, we would, I guess. We’re touring all over the world with Skynyrd so we’re taking a few weeks off for the holidays, and then starting back up.
Is it hard to separate work and life with Dale?
No, man. We just get along really good and she’s my best friend. If we weren’t playing music together, we’d still be hangin’ together. We help each other on the road and everything is good. She takes care of me. I’m a mess these days with my health. [Laughs.] I had a couple of heart stents put in. But I’m feeling great and I’m playing, and we’re enjoying our grandkids and taking a few weeks off here.
Being on the road is hard.
Yeah, it’s a lot of work, just the traveling. Playing for the people at night and doing all the other stuff like talking about the old guys and the original band. That’s what I try to do everyday, to keep the dream alive and keep them alive. It’s a lot of hard work, but it’s worth it and it’s fun. It’s all I know how to do.
Do you ever get tired of playing the Skynyrd stuff?
Nah, man. It’s a pleasure and an honor for me. Back when it was new and we first wrote it and toured with it, it was magic to us that we could do it, and that we finally made it after all those years of trying. That was our dream. And to play it now … unfortunately Ronnie and a lot of the guys in the band, after the crash, they never got to hear “Freebird” and “Sweet Home Alabama” be played for years and turn into classical music.
It’s great that you’re still staying true to your roots, after all these years.
We just do what we do. Unfortunately, Ronnie would have gone on to be a great songwriter, which he already was. He was one of the best I’ve ever heard. His lyrics—he had a magic way of talking to people, and the common person. But as far as Southern music, that’s just the way we play.
Are there any new artists that have caught your attention?
Like I said, I’m an old blues guy so I listen to old blues. And I love the Beatles, actually, and all the old groups like the Yardbirds. I listen to that stuff. We were so lucky—our generation that grew up with the Beatles. These kids nowadays, I don’t think they know how to appreciate real musicianship with real people that try to rehearse all day to sound good. [Laughs.] There’s not a lot of bands around anymore that tour all the time. There’s a lot of solo artists with dancers, but never a real band. But I’m gonna keep on going until I can’t.
Where do you see yourself during the next 10 years?
Oh wow! I don’t know the future, really. I just see us doing some more tours with Skynyrd stuff. We’re loving that and will keep on going until our farewell tour, whenever that might be. Anything me and Dale get going with this album … who knows, in the future we could do another album or songs. It’s hard to do a whole CD now because people just stream one song or two. You don't have to do a whole album now because nobody cares. [Laughs.]
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Gary Rossington and the 2003 edition of Lynyrd Skynyrd—including Blackfoot founder Rickey Medlocke and Outlaws frontman Hughie Thomasson on guitars—tear through the classics “Simple Man” and “That Smell.” Both songs are showcases for Rossington’s burly tone, roughhouse licks, and singing feedback technique. He’s playing one of his beloved Les Paul Standards while Thomasson jams on a Fender Strat and Medlocke plays a Gibson Firebird, the preferred instrument of original Skynyrd co-guitarist Allen Collins.
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The folk-rock outfit’s frontman Taylor Goldsmith wrote their debut at 23. Now, with the release of their ninth full-length, Oh Brother, he shares his many insights into how he’s grown as a songwriter, and what that says about him as an artist and an individual.
I’ve been following the songwriting of Taylor Goldsmith, the frontman of L.A.-based, folk-rock band Dawes, since early 2011. At the time, I was a sophomore in college, and had just discovered their debut, North Hills, a year-and-a-half late. (That was thanks in part to one of its tracks, “When My Time Comes,” pervading cable TV via its placement in a Chevy commercial over my winter break.) As I caught on, I became fully entranced.
Goldsmith’s lyrics spoke to me the loudest, with lines like “Well, you can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks / Yes, you can stare into the abyss, but it’s starin’ right back” (a casual Nietzsche paraphrase); and “Oh, the snowfall this time of year / It’s not what Birmingham is used to / I get the feeling that I brought it here / And now I’m taking it away.” The way his words painted a portrait of the sincere, sentimental man behind them, along with his cozy, unassuming guitar work and the band’s four-part harmonies, had me hooked.
Nothing Is Wrong and Stories Don’t End came next, and I happily gobbled up more folksy fodder in tracks like “If I Wanted,” “Most People,” and “From a Window Seat.” But 2015’s All Your Favorite Bands, which debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard Folk Albumschart, didn’t land with me, and by the time 2016’s We’re All Gonna Die was released, it was clear that Goldsmith had shifted thematically in his writing. A friend drew a thoughtful Warren Zevon comparison to the single, “When the Tequila Runs Out”—a commentary on vapid, conceited, American-socialite party culture—but it still didn’t really do it for me. I fell off the Dawes train a bit, and became somewhat oblivious to their three full-lengths that followed.
Oh Brotheris Goldsmith’s latest addition to the Dawes songbook, and I’m grateful to say that it’s brought me back. After having done some catching up, I’d posit that it’s the second work in the third act, or fall season, of his songwriting—where 2022’s Misadventures of Doomscrollercracked open the door, Oh Brother swings it wide. And it doesn’t have much more than Dawes’ meat and potatoes, per se, in common with acts one or two. Some moodiness has stayed—as well as societal disgruntlement and the arrangement elements that first had me intoxicated. But then there’s the 7/4 section in the middle of “Front Row Seat”; the gently unwinding, quiet, intimate jazz-club feel of “Surprise!”; the experimentally percussive, soft-spoken “Enough Already”; and the unexpected, dare I say, Danny Elfman-esque harmonic twists and turns in the closing track, “Hilarity Ensues.”
The main engine behind Dawes, the Goldsmith brothers are both native “Angelinos,” having been born and raised in the L.A. area. Taylor is still proud to call the city his home.
Photo by Jon Chu
“I have this working hypothesis that who you are as a songwriter through the years is pretty close to who you are in a dinner conversation,” Goldsmith tells me in an interview, as I ask him about that thematic shift. “When I was 23, if I was invited to dinner with grownups [laughs], or just friends or whatever, and they say, ‘How you doin’, Taylor?’ I probably wouldn’t think twice to be like, ‘I’m not that good. There’s this girl, and … I don’t know where things are at—can I share this with you? Is that okay?’ I would just go in in a way that’s fairly indiscreet! And I’m grateful to that version of me, especially as a writer, because that’s what I wanted to hear, so that’s what I was making at the time.
“But then as I got older, it became, ‘Oh, maybe that’s not an appropriate way to answer the question of how I’m doing.’ Or, ‘Maybe I’ve spent enough years thinking about me! What does it feel like to turn the lens around?’” he continues, naming Elvis Costello and Paul Simon as inspirations along the way through that self-evolution. “Also, trying to be mindful of—I had strengths then that I don’t have now, but I have strengths now that I didn’t have then. And now it’s time to celebrate those. Even in just a physical way, like hearing Frank Zappa talking about how his agility as a guitar player was waning as he got older. It’s like, that just means that you showcase different aspects of your skills.
“I am a changing person. It would be weird if I was still writing the same way I was when I was 23. There would probably be some weird implications there as to who I’d be becoming as a human [laughs].”
Taylor Goldsmith considers Oh Brother, the ninth full-length in Dawes’ catalog, to be the beginning of a new phase of Dawes, containing some of his most unfiltered, unedited songwriting.
Since its inception, the engine behind Dawes has been the brothers Goldsmith, with Taylor on guitar and vocals and Griffin on drums and sometimes vocal harmonies. But they’ve always had consistent backup. For the first several years, that was Wylie Gelber on bass and Tay Strathairn on keyboards. On We’re All Gonna Die, Lee Pardini replaced Strathairn and has been with the band since. Oh Brother, however, marks the departure of Gelber and Pardini.
“We were like, ‘Wow, this is an intense time; this is a vulnerable time,’” remarks Goldsmith, who says that their parting was supportive and loving, but still rocked him and Griffin. “You get a glimpse of your vulnerability in a way that you haven’t felt in a long time when things are just up and running. For a second there, we’re like, ‘We’re getting a little rattled—how do we survive this?’”
They decided to pair up with producer Mike Viola, a close family friend, who has also worked with Mandy Moore—Taylor’s spouse—along with Panic! At the Disco, Andrew Bird, and Jenny Lewis. “[We knew that] he understands all of the parameters of that raw state. And, you know, I always show Mike my songs, so he was aware of what we had cookin’,” says Goldsmith.
Griffin stayed behind the kit, but Taylor took over on bass and keys, the latter of which he has more experience with than he’s displayed on past releases. “We’ve made records where it’s very tempting to appeal to your strengths, where it’s like, ‘Oh, I know how to do this, I’m just gonna nail it,’” he says. “Then there’s records that we make where we really push ourselves into territories where we aren’t comfortable. That contributed to [Misadventures of Doomscroller] feeling like a living, breathing thing—very reactive, very urgent, very aware. We were paying very close attention. And I would say the same goes for this.”
That new terrain, says Goldsmith, “forced us to react to each other and react to the music in new ways, and all of a sudden, we’re exploring new corners of what we do. I’m really excited in that sense, because it’s like this is the first album of a new phase.”
“That forced us to react to each other and react to the music in new ways, and all of a sudden, we’re exploring new corners of what we do.”
In proper folk (or even folk-rock) tradition, the music of Dawes isn’t exactly riddled with guitar solos, but that’s not to say that Goldsmith doesn’t show off his chops when the timing is right. Just listen to the languid, fluent lick on “Surprise!”, the shamelessly prog-inspired riff in the bridge of “Front Row Seat,” and the tactful, articulate line that threads through “Enough Already.” Goldsmith has a strong, individual sense of phrasing, where his improvised melodies can be just as biting as his catalog’s occasional lyrical jabs at presumably toxic ex-girlfriends, and just as melancholy as his self-reflective metaphors, all the while without drawing too much attention to himself over the song.
Of course, most of our conversation revolves around songwriting, as that’s the craft that’s the truest and closest to his identity. “There’s an openness, a goofiness—I even struggle to say it now, but—an earnestness that goes along with who I am, not only as a writer but as a person,” Goldsmith elaborates. “And I think it’s important that those two things reflect one another. ’Cause when you meet someone and they don’t, I get a little bit weirded out, like, ‘What have I been listening to? Are you lying to me?’” he says with a smile.
Taylor Goldsmith's Gear
Pictured here performing live in 2014, Taylor Goldsmith has been the primary songwriter for all of Dawes' records, beginning with 2009’s North Hills.
Photo by Tim Bugbee/Tinnitus Photography
Guitars
- Fender Telecaster
- Gibson ES-345
- Radocaster (made by Wylie Gelber)
Amps
- ’64 Fender Deluxe
- Matchless Laurel Canyon
Effects
- 29 Pedals EUNA
- Jackson Audio Bloom
- Ibanez Tube Screamer with Keeley mod
- Vintage Boss Chorus
- Vintage Boss VB-2 Vibrato
- Strymon Flint
- Strymon El Capistan
Strings
- Ernie Ball .010s
In Goldsmith’s songwriting process, he explains that he’s learned to lean away from the inclination towards perfectionism. Paraphrasing something he heard Father John Misty share about Leonard Cohen, he says, “People think you’re cultivating these songs, or, ‘I wouldn’t deign to write something that’s beneath me,’ but the reality is, ‘I’m a rat, and I’ll take whatever I can possibly get, and then I’ll just try to get the best of it.’
“Ever since Misadventures of Doomscroller,” he adds, “I’ve enjoyed this quality of, rather than try to be a minimalist, I want to be a maximalist. I want to see how much a song can handle.” For the songs on Oh Brother, that meant that he decided to continue adding “more observations within the universe” of “Surprise!”, ultimately writing six verses. A similar approach to “King of the Never-Wills,” a ballad about a character suffering from alcoholism, resulted in four verses.
“The economy of songwriting that we’re all taught would buck that,” says Goldsmith. “It would insist that I only keep the very best and shed something that isn’t as good. But I’m not going to think economically. I’m not going to think, ‘Is this self-indulgent?’
Goldsmith’s songwriting has shifted thematically over the years, from more personal, introspective expression to more social commentary and, at times, even satire, in songs like We’re All Gonna Die’s “When the Tequila Runs Out.”
Photo by Mike White
“I don’t abide that term being applied to music. Because if there’s a concern about self-indulgence, then you’d have to dismiss all of jazz. All of it. You’d have to dismiss so many of my most favorite songs. Because in a weird way, I feel like that’s the whole point—self-indulgence. And then obviously relating to someone else, to another human being.” (He elaborates that, if Bob Dylan had trimmed back any of the verses on “Desolation Row,” it would have deprived him of the unique experience it creates for him when he listens to it.)
One of the joys of speaking with Goldsmith is just listening to his thought processes. When I ask him a question, he seems compelled to share every backstory to every detail that’s going through his head, in an effort to both do his insights justice and to generously provide me with the most complete answer. That makes him a bit verbose, but not in a bad way, because he never rambles. There is an endpoint to his thoughts. When he’s done, however, it takes me a second to realize that it’s then my turn to speak.
To his point on artistic self-indulgence, I offer that there’s no need for artists to feel “icky” about self-promotion—that to promote your art is to celebrate it, and to create a shared experience with your audience.
“I hear what you’re saying loud and clear; I couldn’t agree more,” Goldsmith replies. “But I also try to be mindful of this when I’m writing, like if I’m going to drag you through the mud of, ‘She left today, she’s not coming back, I’m a piece of shit, what’s wrong with me, the end’.... That might be relatable, that might evoke a response, but I don’t know if that’s necessarily helpful … other than dragging someone else through the shit with me.
“In a weird way, I feel like that’s the whole point—self-indulgence. And then obviously relating to someone else, to another human being.”
“So, if I’m going to share, I want there to be something to offer, something that feels like: ‘Here’s a path that’s helped me through this, or here’s an observation that has changed how I see this particular experience.’ It’s so hard to delineate between the two, but I feel like there is a difference.”
Naming the opening track “Mister Los Angeles,” “King of the Never-Wills,” and even the title track to his 2015 chart-topper, “All Your Favorite Bands,” he remarks, “I wouldn’t call these songs ‘cool.’ Like, when I hear what cool music is, I wouldn’t put those songs next to them [laughs]. But maybe this record was my strongest dose of just letting me be me, and recognizing what that essence is rather than trying to force out certain aspects of who I am, and force in certain aspects of what I’m not. I think a big part of writing these songs was just self-acceptance,” he concludes, laughing, “and just a whole lot of fishing.”
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Led by Goldsmith, Dawes infuses more rock power into their folk sound live at the Los Angeles Ace Hotel in 2023.