The Brit noisemaker talks sonic expressionism, the benefits of fingerstyle guitar, and respecting the sanctity of songs.
Wolf Alice is a brash, noisy North London-bred quartet that has the complete attention and adoration of the ultra-finicky British music press, and is trying to conquer the States. The band’s critically-lauded debut album, My Love Is Cool, is a dynamic ride that takes many of the tropes that made the alternative rock of the ’90s so potent—shifting walls of guitar, feedback squalls, tremolo warbles, and moody-yet-melodic vocals that conjure visions of Veruca Salt and Garbage—and reinvigorates them with the fire and passion of a pack of young musicians set on doing things their own way… even if their way, intentionally or not, echoes one of the most vibrant, creative decades of modern guitar-driven rock.
A series of triumphant appearances at major British music festivals this summer, including Reading, Leeds, and Glastonbury, teamed with rave reviews for My Love Is Cool from New Musical Express, The Daily Telegraph, the BBC (which placed the band on its “Best Music Sound of 2015” list), and, here in the U.S., industry pulse-taker Billboard, all seem to spell Arrival—capital “A” intended.
Although the band that takes its name from an unconventional coming-of-age story by English novelist Angela Carter surprisingly claims to have not been directly influenced by the ’90s grunge and noise-rock its sound so often references (even while mentioning The Pixies in interviews), Wolf Alice has done something truly excellent with its interpretation of that era’s music. The 13 songs on My Love Is Cool are often painted in challenging sonic textures, yet ultimately Wolf Alice lives and dies by its melodic sense and a mission to serve its songs, typically favoring simple arrangements (the sparsely adorned, massive-sounding “Moaning Lisa Smile” is a fine example) that provide bedrock for the whisper-to-scream delivery of frontwoman, guitarist, and blooming musical heroine, Ellie Rowsell.
Nonetheless, the musician chiefly responsible for Wolf Alice’s swirling guitar textures and unfettered, substantial riffs is lead guitarist and songwriter Joff Oddie. With a Fender Jaguar or Strat typically resting on his right knee as he hunches over its strings, Oddie appears—as he’s carried by the music’s shifting tides—to almost be dissecting his instrument, plucking and stabbing, probing to find the spots where magic lies buried and ready for revealing.
secretly he quite likes it.”
Unlikely as it seems, given their ability to create a mighty caterwaul at whim, Oddie and Rowsell started performing at open mics as an acoustic duo in 2010. The foundation of the riff-driven rollercoaster ride “Fluffy,” from My Love Is Cool, reflects those origins. “The first version was made in my bedroom, with me and Ellie playing acoustic guitars,” Oddie relates. “From what I remember, it was a lot softer and had a bit more of a shoegaze element. I think it got more visceral in the rehearsal room and it simply stayed that way.” Wolf Alice’s current lineup, which includes bassist Theo Ellis and drummer Joel Amey, came together in 2012. A year later the band released its debut EP, Blush.
From across the pond, Oddie spoke with Premier Guitar about his unexpected influences, functioning as a “band-focused” guitarist, his affinity for fingerstyle guitar, and his desire to raise a din in the studio and onstage.
What was your path to the guitar?
I must have been about 10 or 11 when I first picked up a guitar. My step-dad played in a band and they used to rehearse in a barn next to our house, so there were always guitars kicking around. I remember deciding one day that I wanted to play the guitar—as you do when you’re a kid—and my step-dad restrung some old acoustic he wasn’t using and gave it to me, along with a three-chord songbook. There were about 50 songs in it you could learn by just knowing C, G, and D7 chords. I sat down and learned “Imagine” by John Lennon.
What players would you cite as major influences?
The English folk revivalists of the ’70s were some of the best guitarists I’ve ever heard. I’m a really big fan of Michael Chapman, Bert Jansch, Nick Drake, Davey Graham, as well as the guys across the pond from earlier, like “Mississippi” John Hurt, Robert Johnson, and Elizabeth Cotten.
I remember my brother coming home from university and playing the first Nick Drake album [1969’s Five Leaves Left] to me in his car. I can’t say I loved it straight away, buts it’s the one now that I keep coming back to. I also remember seeing Michael Chapman play in my village hall—it’s tiny and intimate, and in the middle of nowhere—and I’m not quite sure why he was there, but I was completely bowled over with his playing. He became an instant hero, then and there. The rest was all just research after I got the bug.
I recently got put onto John Fahey by our tour manager in the States and I’ve been obsessed with him. He has a record called The Transfiguration of Blind Joe Death and it blows my mind every time I hear it!
As far as electric players go, I’m a huge fan of Graham Coxon [Blur] and John Squire [the Stone Roses]. Amazing players! Other than that, I get really excited by people who just seem to have a total disregard for the traditions of guitar playing—people who make a lot of noise and use lots of pedals. I would say Lee Ranaldo [Sonic Youth] and Kevin Shields [My Bloody Valentine] are among my favorites where that style is concerned.
With his trusty main axe, a 1962 Fender Jaguar reissue with Lollar pickups and a M1 Mastery Bridge, Joff Oddie plunges himself into Wolf Alice’s high-energy live performances. Photo by Matt Condon
I’ve read that you started as a fingerstyle guitarist, although in Wolf Alice you play almost exclusively with a pick. How has your fingerstyle experience made its way into Wolf Alice’s sound?
When I’m not playing in Wolf Alice, I don’t tend to play a lot of electric guitar. I’ve always played acoustic at home. When you start fingerpicking, it really busts the instrument open and needs no other accompaniment. You get to a point where you are playing bass parts, rhythm parts, and leads all at the same time. In terms of learning about composition and how music is put together, it’s a great tool and it’s helped me a lot. I’m a self-taught fingerpicker, so I wouldn’t know if I use a specific style. It has made it easier to hybrid pick at times, and it’s a really useful creative tool to have. It did take me quite a while to get my head around using a pick when I started playing electric, though.
Joff Oddie’s Gear
Guitars
1962 Fender Jaguar reissue (with Lollar pickups and M1 Mastery Bridge)
Fender American Standard Stratocaster
Nash 1958 S-style (studio)
Amps
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III Mint Julep with Celestion G12P-80
Vox AC30C2X
Effects
Gig Rig G2 switching system
Morley Volume Plus
Boss TU-3 Chromatic Tuner
Dunlop Cry Baby Wah Wah
Empress Compressor
Way Huge Red Llama Overdrive
Empress Distortion
Colorsound Fuzz Box
Line 6 DL4
Empress Tremolo2
Empress Phaser
Strymon BigSky Reverberator
Strymon TimeLine Delay
MXR M134 Stereo Chorus
Electro-Harmonix Nano POG
Electro-Harmonix HOG
Strings and Picks
Ernie Ball Beefy Slinky (.011–.054)
Dunlop Nylon Standard 1 mm picks
Ellie Rowsell’s Gear
Guitars
Fender Telecaster
T-Style with Bigsby
Fender Mustang
Amp
Vox AC30CC2
Effects
Electro-Harmonix Big Muff
Pro Co RAT
Boss RV-5 Digital Reverb
Line 6 DL4
MXR M134 Stereo Chorus
Fulltone OCD
Strings
Ernie Ball Super Slinky (.009–.042)
To set the record straight, what are the band’s influences?
The band really does listen to a pretty broad selection of music. Like I said earlier, I’m a big folk fan. Theo listens to a lot of grime music. [Editor’s Note: Grime is a hybrid style derived from UK garage, drums and bass, and dancehall music.] Joel has an encyclopedic knowledge of punk and hardcore, and Ellie listens to pretty much everything.
We all listen to Queens of the Stone Age, the Velvet Underground, Patrick Wolf, the Black Lips, and the Strokes—the kind of stuff that was around when we were growing up, really, as opposed to mainly ’90s stuff. On a songwriting level, the way the Velvet Underground married the ideologies of experimental and popular music had a pretty profound effect on me.
What gear did the band use in the studio for My Love Is Cool? Anything unusual?
I don’t know if there was anything particularly out of the ordinary used during the sessions. Some of the pedals we used really consistently were the Klon Centaur—which is such a classic now—a Colorsound Fuzz Box, an Empress Compressor, an Empress Tremolo2, and an Empress Phaser. We also pulled out an Electro-Harmonix HOG a bunch of times.
The real gem was this Nash 1958 Strat copy. If it’s not my Fender Jaguar you’re hearing on the record, then it’s probably that Nash. It was one of the best guitars I’ve ever played and if you see one in a shop, I urge you to have a go! They’re really some of the best guitars out there at the moment.
The guitar parts on the album all seem extremely focused on serving the songs, but there are really interesting atmospheric touches—particularly the feedback-with-atonal-bombs intro to “Giant Peach” and the ghostly background swells of “Swallowtail.” What are we hearing there?
We’re not really the kind of band to just throw guitar solos into songs for the hell of it. I believe good band-focused guitarists do what they have to—complement the song and what the vocalist is doing. There weren’t a lot of synths used during the recording, and a lot of the ambient parts were guitars through lots of pedals and amp combinations. We would send different split signals to various amps with designated effects chains going to specific amps to build a sound. Also, we would send a lot of drones through pedal chains to build a bed of sound.
The live and studio versions of “Giant Peach” build up to enormous waves of sound at several points. How did you get those sounds in the studio and how do you recreate them onstage?
There’s one main lead guitar track on “Giant Peach” that was a one-taker that runs through the whole song. That part is locked into the bass and drums because we wanted to retain as much “live” value to the track as we could. Under that, however, is a lot of layering of different tones to try and make it sound as fat as possible. I remember we tracked just the output of a distorted reverb in the biggest sounding parts of that song. That added a lot of depth and girth to those passages. As for live, it’s just about turning it up and moving around until you figure out the stage. Our soundman always tells me to turn down, but I think secretly he quite likes it.
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The five-day Glastonbury Festival in the village of Pilton, Somerset, England, was among Wolf Alice’s major 2015 appearances, and their thrill-packed performance of “Giant Peach” on that stage is a scalding demonstration of many of the band’s guitar signatures. Ellie Rowsell kicks up the song’s stuttering spine of a riff, answered by Joff Oddie’s sputtering feedback entrance. At 1:00 Rowsell tosses off a brief melody before the group roars into a cascading wall of sound punctuated by a brief atonal squall from Oddie as the vocal begins. They have precise control of dynamics. After Wolf Alice brings the song to its psychedelic climax, they bust out a new heavy riff for the decrescendo that would sound like classic Black Sabbath if they played it an octave lower.
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The folk-rock outfit’s frontman Taylor Goldsmith wrote their debut at 23. Now, with the release of their ninth full-length, Oh Brother, he shares his many insights into how he’s grown as a songwriter, and what that says about him as an artist and an individual.
I’ve been following the songwriting of Taylor Goldsmith, the frontman of L.A.-based, folk-rock band Dawes, since early 2011. At the time, I was a sophomore in college, and had just discovered their debut, North Hills, a year-and-a-half late. (That was thanks in part to one of its tracks, “When My Time Comes,” pervading cable TV via its placement in a Chevy commercial over my winter break.) As I caught on, I became fully entranced.
Goldsmith’s lyrics spoke to me the loudest, with lines like “Well, you can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks / Yes, you can stare into the abyss, but it’s starin’ right back” (a casual Nietzsche paraphrase); and “Oh, the snowfall this time of year / It’s not what Birmingham is used to / I get the feeling that I brought it here / And now I’m taking it away.” The way his words painted a portrait of the sincere, sentimental man behind them, along with his cozy, unassuming guitar work and the band’s four-part harmonies, had me hooked.
Nothing Is Wrong and Stories Don’t End came next, and I happily gobbled up more folksy fodder in tracks like “If I Wanted,” “Most People,” and “From a Window Seat.” But 2015’s All Your Favorite Bands, which debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard Folk Albumschart, didn’t land with me, and by the time 2016’s We’re All Gonna Die was released, it was clear that Goldsmith had shifted thematically in his writing. A friend drew a thoughtful Warren Zevon comparison to the single, “When the Tequila Runs Out”—a commentary on vapid, conceited, American-socialite party culture—but it still didn’t really do it for me. I fell off the Dawes train a bit, and became somewhat oblivious to their three full-lengths that followed.
Oh Brotheris Goldsmith’s latest addition to the Dawes songbook, and I’m grateful to say that it’s brought me back. After having done some catching up, I’d posit that it’s the second work in the third act, or fall season, of his songwriting—where 2022’s Misadventures of Doomscrollercracked open the door, Oh Brother swings it wide. And it doesn’t have much more than Dawes’ meat and potatoes, per se, in common with acts one or two. Some moodiness has stayed—as well as societal disgruntlement and the arrangement elements that first had me intoxicated. But then there’s the 7/4 section in the middle of “Front Row Seat”; the gently unwinding, quiet, intimate jazz-club feel of “Surprise!”; the experimentally percussive, soft-spoken “Enough Already”; and the unexpected, dare I say, Danny Elfman-esque harmonic twists and turns in the closing track, “Hilarity Ensues.”
The main engine behind Dawes, the Goldsmith brothers are both native “Angelinos,” having been born and raised in the L.A. area. Taylor is still proud to call the city his home.
Photo by Jon Chu
“I have this working hypothesis that who you are as a songwriter through the years is pretty close to who you are in a dinner conversation,” Goldsmith tells me in an interview, as I ask him about that thematic shift. “When I was 23, if I was invited to dinner with grownups [laughs], or just friends or whatever, and they say, ‘How you doin’, Taylor?’ I probably wouldn’t think twice to be like, ‘I’m not that good. There’s this girl, and … I don’t know where things are at—can I share this with you? Is that okay?’ I would just go in in a way that’s fairly indiscreet! And I’m grateful to that version of me, especially as a writer, because that’s what I wanted to hear, so that’s what I was making at the time.
“But then as I got older, it became, ‘Oh, maybe that’s not an appropriate way to answer the question of how I’m doing.’ Or, ‘Maybe I’ve spent enough years thinking about me! What does it feel like to turn the lens around?’” he continues, naming Elvis Costello and Paul Simon as inspirations along the way through that self-evolution. “Also, trying to be mindful of—I had strengths then that I don’t have now, but I have strengths now that I didn’t have then. And now it’s time to celebrate those. Even in just a physical way, like hearing Frank Zappa talking about how his agility as a guitar player was waning as he got older. It’s like, that just means that you showcase different aspects of your skills.
“I am a changing person. It would be weird if I was still writing the same way I was when I was 23. There would probably be some weird implications there as to who I’d be becoming as a human [laughs].”
Taylor Goldsmith considers Oh Brother, the ninth full-length in Dawes’ catalog, to be the beginning of a new phase of Dawes, containing some of his most unfiltered, unedited songwriting.
Since its inception, the engine behind Dawes has been the brothers Goldsmith, with Taylor on guitar and vocals and Griffin on drums and sometimes vocal harmonies. But they’ve always had consistent backup. For the first several years, that was Wylie Gelber on bass and Tay Strathairn on keyboards. On We’re All Gonna Die, Lee Pardini replaced Strathairn and has been with the band since. Oh Brother, however, marks the departure of Gelber and Pardini.
“We were like, ‘Wow, this is an intense time; this is a vulnerable time,’” remarks Goldsmith, who says that their parting was supportive and loving, but still rocked him and Griffin. “You get a glimpse of your vulnerability in a way that you haven’t felt in a long time when things are just up and running. For a second there, we’re like, ‘We’re getting a little rattled—how do we survive this?’”
They decided to pair up with producer Mike Viola, a close family friend, who has also worked with Mandy Moore—Taylor’s spouse—along with Panic! At the Disco, Andrew Bird, and Jenny Lewis. “[We knew that] he understands all of the parameters of that raw state. And, you know, I always show Mike my songs, so he was aware of what we had cookin’,” says Goldsmith.
Griffin stayed behind the kit, but Taylor took over on bass and keys, the latter of which he has more experience with than he’s displayed on past releases. “We’ve made records where it’s very tempting to appeal to your strengths, where it’s like, ‘Oh, I know how to do this, I’m just gonna nail it,’” he says. “Then there’s records that we make where we really push ourselves into territories where we aren’t comfortable. That contributed to [Misadventures of Doomscroller] feeling like a living, breathing thing—very reactive, very urgent, very aware. We were paying very close attention. And I would say the same goes for this.”
That new terrain, says Goldsmith, “forced us to react to each other and react to the music in new ways, and all of a sudden, we’re exploring new corners of what we do. I’m really excited in that sense, because it’s like this is the first album of a new phase.”
“That forced us to react to each other and react to the music in new ways, and all of a sudden, we’re exploring new corners of what we do.”
In proper folk (or even folk-rock) tradition, the music of Dawes isn’t exactly riddled with guitar solos, but that’s not to say that Goldsmith doesn’t show off his chops when the timing is right. Just listen to the languid, fluent lick on “Surprise!”, the shamelessly prog-inspired riff in the bridge of “Front Row Seat,” and the tactful, articulate line that threads through “Enough Already.” Goldsmith has a strong, individual sense of phrasing, where his improvised melodies can be just as biting as his catalog’s occasional lyrical jabs at presumably toxic ex-girlfriends, and just as melancholy as his self-reflective metaphors, all the while without drawing too much attention to himself over the song.
Of course, most of our conversation revolves around songwriting, as that’s the craft that’s the truest and closest to his identity. “There’s an openness, a goofiness—I even struggle to say it now, but—an earnestness that goes along with who I am, not only as a writer but as a person,” Goldsmith elaborates. “And I think it’s important that those two things reflect one another. ’Cause when you meet someone and they don’t, I get a little bit weirded out, like, ‘What have I been listening to? Are you lying to me?’” he says with a smile.
Taylor Goldsmith's Gear
Pictured here performing live in 2014, Taylor Goldsmith has been the primary songwriter for all of Dawes' records, beginning with 2009’s North Hills.
Photo by Tim Bugbee/Tinnitus Photography
Guitars
- Fender Telecaster
- Gibson ES-345
- Radocaster (made by Wylie Gelber)
Amps
- ’64 Fender Deluxe
- Matchless Laurel Canyon
Effects
- 29 Pedals EUNA
- Jackson Audio Bloom
- Ibanez Tube Screamer with Keeley mod
- Vintage Boss Chorus
- Vintage Boss VB-2 Vibrato
- Strymon Flint
- Strymon El Capistan
Strings
- Ernie Ball .010s
In Goldsmith’s songwriting process, he explains that he’s learned to lean away from the inclination towards perfectionism. Paraphrasing something he heard Father John Misty share about Leonard Cohen, he says, “People think you’re cultivating these songs, or, ‘I wouldn’t deign to write something that’s beneath me,’ but the reality is, ‘I’m a rat, and I’ll take whatever I can possibly get, and then I’ll just try to get the best of it.’
“Ever since Misadventures of Doomscroller,” he adds, “I’ve enjoyed this quality of, rather than try to be a minimalist, I want to be a maximalist. I want to see how much a song can handle.” For the songs on Oh Brother, that meant that he decided to continue adding “more observations within the universe” of “Surprise!”, ultimately writing six verses. A similar approach to “King of the Never-Wills,” a ballad about a character suffering from alcoholism, resulted in four verses.
“The economy of songwriting that we’re all taught would buck that,” says Goldsmith. “It would insist that I only keep the very best and shed something that isn’t as good. But I’m not going to think economically. I’m not going to think, ‘Is this self-indulgent?’
Goldsmith’s songwriting has shifted thematically over the years, from more personal, introspective expression to more social commentary and, at times, even satire, in songs like We’re All Gonna Die’s “When the Tequila Runs Out.”
Photo by Mike White
“I don’t abide that term being applied to music. Because if there’s a concern about self-indulgence, then you’d have to dismiss all of jazz. All of it. You’d have to dismiss so many of my most favorite songs. Because in a weird way, I feel like that’s the whole point—self-indulgence. And then obviously relating to someone else, to another human being.” (He elaborates that, if Bob Dylan had trimmed back any of the verses on “Desolation Row,” it would have deprived him of the unique experience it creates for him when he listens to it.)
One of the joys of speaking with Goldsmith is just listening to his thought processes. When I ask him a question, he seems compelled to share every backstory to every detail that’s going through his head, in an effort to both do his insights justice and to generously provide me with the most complete answer. That makes him a bit verbose, but not in a bad way, because he never rambles. There is an endpoint to his thoughts. When he’s done, however, it takes me a second to realize that it’s then my turn to speak.
To his point on artistic self-indulgence, I offer that there’s no need for artists to feel “icky” about self-promotion—that to promote your art is to celebrate it, and to create a shared experience with your audience.
“I hear what you’re saying loud and clear; I couldn’t agree more,” Goldsmith replies. “But I also try to be mindful of this when I’m writing, like if I’m going to drag you through the mud of, ‘She left today, she’s not coming back, I’m a piece of shit, what’s wrong with me, the end’.... That might be relatable, that might evoke a response, but I don’t know if that’s necessarily helpful … other than dragging someone else through the shit with me.
“In a weird way, I feel like that’s the whole point—self-indulgence. And then obviously relating to someone else, to another human being.”
“So, if I’m going to share, I want there to be something to offer, something that feels like: ‘Here’s a path that’s helped me through this, or here’s an observation that has changed how I see this particular experience.’ It’s so hard to delineate between the two, but I feel like there is a difference.”
Naming the opening track “Mister Los Angeles,” “King of the Never-Wills,” and even the title track to his 2015 chart-topper, “All Your Favorite Bands,” he remarks, “I wouldn’t call these songs ‘cool.’ Like, when I hear what cool music is, I wouldn’t put those songs next to them [laughs]. But maybe this record was my strongest dose of just letting me be me, and recognizing what that essence is rather than trying to force out certain aspects of who I am, and force in certain aspects of what I’m not. I think a big part of writing these songs was just self-acceptance,” he concludes, laughing, “and just a whole lot of fishing.”
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Led by Goldsmith, Dawes infuses more rock power into their folk sound live at the Los Angeles Ace Hotel in 2023.
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